Name One Top Class Fighter Jones Ever Faced

[DR. FREECLOUD]

i'm having trouble looking at jones career and finding some true top class fighters that jones faced. jones faced a man that was actually a few days younger than him saturday night and got knocked out. actually he received a boxing lesson. johnson was also fighting his 52nd fight just like jones. he came ont the pro scene 4 years after jones. has been ko'ed like jones although that was in 97. for some reason you people don't want to give the fellow any credit for beating jones. i mean really, excuses like jones is old and slower than he used to be. that this guy really wasn't that fast. when i keep watching this fight over and over i think that johnson was pretty quik. and it wasn't just speed it was they way he threw his punches. jones has always been able to back people off of him with a quik 1-2 but johnson responded with a 3-4 in most cases. jones was never able to back johnson up at all. johnson faught a very smart match. he came out from the opening bell and pressured jones til the bell rang. jones didn't know how to deal with johnsons style because he couldn't do a quick jab and move to the left like usual because johnson kept the pressure no matter what. jones would have never been able to deal with the fighter he faced on saturday night. granted jones had skill and talent against lesser opponents. the first round took alot out of jones. being hit from beginning to end of round one takes alot out of you. yeah sure this guy johnson only has 28 ko's on his record. but one of those is jones. you have to have some kind of power to ko 28 people. saying that he doesn't have power when in facing 52 fighters he has ko'ed more than half of them is like saying jones has faught quality opponents throughout his career. just so you know only 12 of his ko's were actual ktfo knock outs. same as jones. ok so i know that a few of the guys jones faced were B+ or close to A class. but for me his career was full of no-ones.

[neils7147933]

He fought James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, and Montell Griffin when they were top contenders. Actually, all 3 are very much still contenders/champs. Maybe Ruiz.

Other than Ruiz, though, those fights were a long time ago. So I won't defend him much more than that.

He's fought a lot of nobodies for HBO.

[DR. FREECLOUD]

He fought James Toney, Bernard Hopkins, and Montell Griffin when they were top contenders. Actually, all 3 are very much still contenders/champs. Maybe Ruiz.

Other than Ruiz, though, those fights were a long time ago. So I won't defend him much more than that.

actually those were the ones i would have picked too. but ruiz didn't stand a chance. don't get me wrong i'm not a ruiz fan but he was robbed by the ref. nady broke it up when ruiz got in close enough to do some damage. like hug.

[m00ks]

i'm having trouble looking at jones career and finding some true top class fighters that jones faced. jones faced a man that was actually a few days younger than him saturday night and got knocked out. actually he received a boxing lesson. johnson was also fighting his 52nd fight just like jones. he came ont the pro scene 4 years after jones. has been ko'ed like jones although that was in 97. for some reason you people don't want to give the fellow any credit for beating jones. i mean really, excuses like jones is old and slower than he used to be. that this guy really wasn't that fast. when i keep watching this fight over and over i think that johnson was pretty quik. and it wasn't just speed it was they way he threw his punches. jones has always been able to back people off of him with a quik 1-2 but johnson responded with a 3-4 in most cases. jones was never able to back johnson up at all. johnson faught a very smart match. he came out from the opening bell and pressured jones til the bell rang. jones didn't know how to deal with johnsons style because he couldn't do a quick jab and move to the left like usual because johnson kept the pressure no matter what. jones would have never been able to deal with the fighter he faced on saturday night. granted jones had skill and talent against lesser opponents. the first round took alot out of jones. being hit from beginning to end of round one takes alot out of you. yeah sure this guy johnson only has 28 ko's on his record. but one of those is jones. you have to have some kind of power to ko 28 people. saying that he doesn't have power when in facing 52 fighters he has ko'ed more than half of them is like saying jones has faught quality opponents throughout his career. just so you know only 12 of his ko's were actual ktfo knock outs. same as jones. ok so i know that a few of the guys jones faced were B+ or close to A class. but for me his career was full of no-ones.

I don't even know where to start.

1) Johnsosn DOES deserve all the credit in the world for his work ethic, but don't even try to convince me that he had the skills of an elite fighter. Cuz he don't. Why did he beat Jones? Because he worked a hell of a lot harder than RJJ that's it.

2) I don't even know where you guys get this boxing lesson crap. There was NO BOXING LESSON. You can't ****ing teach RJJ a boxing lesson. He just threw a hell of a lot more than RJJ SIMPLE! RJJ's punches we're precise and accurate. Johnson just swarmed RJJ with punches. Yeah he boxed smart, yeah he excecuted his plan well, but that's it!

3) Every ****ing boxer has SOME kind of power. He didn't KO RJJ cuz of his power. The punch hit the temple, that's the worst place you can get hit in the head. Softest part of yer skull.

4) The old RJJ would have moved and not stay in one ****ing place. He was lazy and ****y in this fight. And he got beat. His fault.

If you're gonna tell me that RJJ's career was made fighting buddies than can you name me another fighter that has had more accomplishments in fighting quality opponents in this era?
Listen man, to give Johnson credit for what he did is one thing, but to completely disregard RJJ's accomplishment's throughout his career is just ******. Anyway, where were the threads questioning RJJ's success before his 2 KO losses?

[DR. FREECLOUD]

I don't even know where to start.

1) Johnsosn DOES deserve all the credit in the world for his work ethic, but don't even try to convince me that he had the skills of an elite fighter. Cuz he don't. Why did he beat Jones? Because he worked a hell of a lot harder than RJJ that's it.

2) I don't even know where you guys get this boxing lesson crap. There was NO BOXING LESSON. You can't ****ing teach RJJ a boxing lesson. He just threw a hell of a lot more than RJJ SIMPLE! RJJ's punches we're precise and accurate. Johnson just swarmed RJJ with punches. Yeah he boxed smart, yeah he excecuted his plan well, but that's it!

3) Every ****ing boxer has SOME kind of power. He didn't KO RJJ cuz of his power. The punch hit the temple, that's the worst place you can get hit in the head. Softest part of yer skull.

4) The old RJJ would have moved and not stay in one ****ing place. He was lazy and ****y in this fight. And he got beat. His fault.

If you're gonna tell me that RJJ's career was made fighting buddies than can you name me another fighter that has had more accomplishments in fighting quality opponents in this era?
Listen man, to give Johnson credit for what he did is one thing, but to completely disregard RJJ's accomplishment's throughout his career is just ******. Anyway, where were the threads questioning RJJ's success before his 2 KO losses?

mooks we both joined this place about the same time and unless you just didn't read those posts you have smply forgotten them. people have been saying it in and out of the forums. i sure know for a fact that i did. unfortunately those posts are not on the new improved site. in his era there simply were only a few quality opponents. read the name of the thread please.

[m00ks]

mooks we both joined this place about the same time and unless you just didn't read those posts you have smply forgotten them. people have been saying it in and out of the forums. i sure know for a fact that i did. unfortunately those posts are not on the new improved site. in his era there simply were only a few quality opponents. read the name of the thread please.

Well you talked about the fight so I talked about the fight.
I don't remember those threads.
Anyweyz, the thread was already answered and to define quality opponents is a matter of opinion. I'm just saying man, you're making it sound like RJJ has accomplished nothing and his career is simply a sham. I mean if you can't give Roy his due, to whom exactly would you give it to?

[ProBox1]

i'm having trouble looking at jones career and finding some true top class fighters that jones faced. jones faced a man that was actually a few days younger than him saturday night and got knocked out. actually he received a boxing lesson. johnson was also fighting his 52nd fight just like jones. he came ont the pro scene 4 years after jones. has been ko'ed like jones although that was in 97. for some reason you people don't want to give the fellow any credit for beating jones. i mean really, excuses like jones is old and slower than he used to be. that this guy really wasn't that fast. when i keep watching this fight over and over i think that johnson was pretty quik. and it wasn't just speed it was they way he threw his punches. jones has always been able to back people off of him with a quik 1-2 but johnson responded with a 3-4 in most cases. jones was never able to back johnson up at all. johnson faught a very smart match. he came out from the opening bell and pressured jones til the bell rang. jones didn't know how to deal with johnsons style because he couldn't do a quick jab and move to the left like usual because johnson kept the pressure no matter what. jones would have never been able to deal with the fighter he faced on saturday night. granted jones had skill and talent against lesser opponents. the first round took alot out of jones. being hit from beginning to end of round one takes alot out of you. yeah sure this guy johnson only has 28 ko's on his record. but one of those is jones. you have to have some kind of power to ko 28 people. saying that he doesn't have power when in facing 52 fighters he has ko'ed more than half of them is like saying jones has faught quality opponents throughout his career. just so you know only 12 of his ko's were actual ktfo knock outs. same as jones. ok so i know that a few of the guys jones faced were B+ or close to A class. but for me his career was full of no-ones.

Antonio Tarver (say what you want, it was close and Jones won the first bout)
Julio Gonzalez (undefeated, later sends Darius into retirement)
John Ruiz
Bernard Hopkins
Montel Griffin
James Toney
Virgil Hill
Eric Harding (undefeated and coming off a one sided destruction of Tarver)
Thomas Tate
Mike McCallum
Vinny Pazienza
Lou Del Valle (number two guy in the division at the time)
Reggie Johnson (Jones unifies division)

[The Fix]

roy has fought some very good fighters like : virgil hill
montell griffin
mike mccallum
james toney
bernard hopkins
antonio tarver
eric lucas
vinnie paz
john ruiz.

thats a pretty good list, all of them are former title holders and 3-4 of them have a good shot at being in the hall of fame.oh and roys record against them is 9-2(4 KO) with 1 dq included.

[abdiel2k3]

yo mooks
dat punch johnson ko'd jones with wasnt on the temple
it was right under or behind the ear
the follow up left hook it him in the arm or shoulder area
which only served to propel him even faster towards the canvas
if u watch it carefully
hes not really KTFO til the back of his head hits the canvas
as hes goin to tthe floor he still seems to be able to hold his arms up by his head but soon as da back of da head hits the floor
his arms go numb
not to say johnson didnt KO him but it was made worse by the hard crash to the canvas

[Dr.Depravity]

When your on a pedestal, people cant wait to tear you down. Ive never seen so many people dislike such a fantastic fighter. There are fighters that I have wanted to be brought down a peg, but I always respected what they did in the ring. And when they did loose I didn't run to the computer to talk as much **** as possible about them. Some people just dont get it.