How effective is taking HGH two weeks before a fight?

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  • elgaringo
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    #41
    HGH is pointless when used short term! To get significant gains in muscle mass and strength you need to take it over a long period (6 month intervals).
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    • AFighter4U
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      #42
      Originally posted by yesir
      why would he use HGH rather than PEDs thats going to help enhance endurance and stamina?

      fail

      things like EPO would be beneficial in the short term, not HGH
      That's cuz EPO is easily detectable through random urine tests. Tests which Pac is agreeable to up to the fight night.

      Also, for EPO to be effective, it has to be taken for an extended period of time. Two weeks RIGHT BEFORE THE FIGHT is simply too short a time frame. Its at this point that he'll be winding down the training and thus using EPO would THEN be actually counter-productive.

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      • Vito Corleone
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        #43
        Originally posted by AFighter4U
        ALL of them getting away with it? Really? Cmon. I'm no expert but i'm not THAT naive. Cheats have been caught.

        By any measure, it was a solid victory: When Nina Kraft crossed the finish line of the Ironman triathlon in Hawaii, on Oct. 16, her nearest competitor...

        BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service

        http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...our-de-france/
        "ALL" was hyperbolic.

        95% of them get away with it. How's that?

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        • Vito Corleone
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          #44
          Originally posted by AFighter4U
          That's cuz EPO is easily detectable through random urine tests. Tests which Pac is agreeable to up to the fight night.
          Also, for EPO to be effective, it has to be taken for an extended period of time. Two weeks RIGHT BEFORE THE FIGHT is simply too short a time frame. Its at this point that he'll be winding down the training and thus using EPO would THEN be actually counter-productive.
          You keep saying that ...even though it's not true.

          Do you work for the Fox News network?

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          • AFighter4U
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            #45
            Originally posted by elgaringo
            HGH is pointless when used short term! To get significant gains in muscle mass and strength you need to take it over a long period (month intervals).
            Thank you! You know, all i've been getting so far are affirmations that two weeks is just too short a time frame to use HGH.

            NO ONE so far has proven to me that HGH has any benefits at all if taken in just two weeks.

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              #46
              Originally posted by AFighter4U
              That's cuz EPO is easily detectable through random urine tests. Tests which Pac is agreeable to up to the fight night.

              Also, for EPO to be effective, it has to be taken for an extended period of time. Two weeks RIGHT BEFORE THE FIGHT is simply too short a time frame. Its at this point that he'll be winding down the training and thus using EPO would THEN be actually counter-productive.
              really? how come shane didnt get caught?

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              • AFighter4U
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                #47
                Originally posted by Vito Corleone
                You keep saying that ...even though it's not true.

                Do you work for the Fox News network?
                I gave links of cyclists CAUGHT USING EPO. Its not a rare thing.

                Unlike random olympic-style blood tests which caught..... ONE cheat in the DECADES IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

                Saying something is fact and PROVING IT are two entirely different things, and you haven't backed up what you've been saying with hard evidence.

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                • Vito Corleone
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by AFighter4U
                  Thank you! You know, all i've been getting so far are affirmations that two weeks is just too short a time frame to use HGH.

                  NO ONE so far has proven to me that HGH has any benefits at all if taken in just two weeks.
                  Why do you SOLELY focus on HGH?

                  If there's anything we learned from the BALCO affair, it's that there are a whole host of drugs used that surprised the regulators. Drugs that were originally intended for OTHER uses. Like modafinil. Like insulin, etc.

                  Why are you obsessed with only HGH like no other drug exists? Was HGH the main drug that Bonds took? Marion Jones? Mark McGwire? Tim Montgomery?

                  Also, the testers have shifted to testing for the masking agents as much as testing for the drugs because it is relatively easy for a skilled scientist to slightly modify an existing drug to beat detection (that;s what THG was).

                  For example, Manny Ramirez didn't get busted for steroids...he got caught with a known masking/leveling agent in his system.

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                  • elgaringo
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by AFighter4U
                    Thank you! You know, all i've been getting so far are affirmations that two weeks is just too short a time frame to use HGH.

                    NO ONE so far has proven to me that HGH has any benefits at all if taken in just two weeks.
                    Ive noticed you've quoted me before i edited my post. I forgot to put a 6 infront of the months.

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                    • Vito Corleone
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by AFighter4U
                      I gave links of cyclists CAUGHT USING EPO. Its not a rare thing.

                      Unlike random olympic-style blood tests which caught..... ONE cheat in the DECADES IT HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

                      Saying something is fact and PROVING IT are two entirely different things, and you haven't backed up what you've been saying with hard evidence.
                      A few. Do you think only a few use it? or do you think the VAAAAST MAJORITY use it (as Floyd Landis has admitted).

                      Of the nearly 200 participants in the TdF, do you think only a dozen or so used drugs? Get real.

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