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  • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    According to Top Rank CEO Bob Arum, the possible sticking point in whether or not Floyd Mayweather Jr. decides to fight in 2010, is Roger Mayweather's upcoming August trial for allegations that he assaulting and choked female boxer Melissa St. Vil last August in Las Vegas. Based on Roger's track record with past assault cases and other criminal charges, there is a good chance that he might do a few months behind bars if convicted in the latest assault case.

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    if roger goes down in prison then i wonder how floyd sr training floyd jr will do him good??? we all saw what happened when hatton fighted pacqiuao....but im sure floyd sr has learned and will teach floyd jr a better way to fight pacqiuao...thats if they do fight...

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      No, I assumed that because you quoted me.

      Second, I will rewrite what I wrote here:
      I'm willing to take a stand right here. I will applaud Manny and crucify for Floyd if Manny offers a reasonable split and FULL testing. Check my post history, you'll see that I was crucifying Floyd prior to his return on a daily basis. The problem with Pacquiao fans are that they aren't fans, they're stans. And if they find out that this brand new offer was a 14-day cutoff for OST, they will find some way to rationalize it. Will you do that as well?
      No I will not, I think Manny's excuse for not initially accepting OST was bull****.

      In the same vein if I were him I would have just been honest and told Floyd to screw off, however, it's come this far, so my humble suggestion would be to just take the tests and put this all to rest. Give back to the sport by giving it a much needed boost, as it relates to the mainstream appeal of the sport.

      Both men will be discredited if this fight doesn't come off. This whole process as I've described before is one long drawn out Novella, that has shown itself to not worthy of the coverage.
      Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 07-07-2010, 11:02 AM.

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      • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
        No I will not, I think Manny's excuse for not initially accepting OST was bull****.

        In the same vein if I were him I would have just been honest and told Floyd to screw off, however, it's come this far, so my humble suggestion would be to just take the tests and put this all to rest. Give back to the sport by giving it a much needed boost, as it relates to the mainstream appeal of the sport.

        Both men will be discredited if this fight doesn't come off. This whole process as I've described before is one long drawn out Novella, that has shown itself not worthy of the coverage.
        Agreed. Again, it is a shame that Manny Pacquiao has such an issue with OST. A real shame--for any athlete in any sport, quite honestly. This issue should have been as big as the $10m weight penalty issue. Meaning, it shouldn't have been an issue at all. This fight should've been made already. I blame the media, personally. I see many are now doing a 180 but it's too late. They gave Manny a pass for his many lies and contradictions and are now wondering why he's taken a mile when given an inch. In the end, the fans lose. All because of a simple test. Who would've thought?

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        • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
          Agreed. Again, it is a shame that Manny Pacquiao has such an issue with OST. A real shame--for any athlete in any sport, quite honestly. This issue should have been as big as the $10m weight penalty issue. Meaning, it shouldn't have been an issue at all. This fight should've been made already. I blame the media, personally. I see many are now doing a 180 but it's too late. They gave Manny a pass for his many lies and contradictions and are now wondering why he's taken a mile when given an inch. In the end, the fans lose. All because of a simple test. Who would've thought?
          Where I think we reach an impasse with respect to OST, is whether or not we believe one person should serve as the poster boy for OST. I do not, it sets a bad precedent in my opinion.

          OST is needed and warranted, in an already danger filled sport, that much we agree on. We just disagree on how we get there and how it's conducted. I'm all for uniformed regulation, wasn't this something McCain showed interest in creating?

          Jurisdictions seem to win out over the idea of uniformity, and it's because those jurisdictions are their to serve their local economies and not the well being of the participants. As an example, Floyd fights in Vegas because he can treat his hands (I could care less about this issue also), other states view the issue differently. A different set of rules/standards all of which favor the fighter who represents the biggest economic boost. Something is wrong in that system, is it about the money or the well-being of the participants?

          One uniformed commission should decide how to enforce regulations, not the jurisdiction and most importantly not "one man". A jurisdiction who is their only in name to serve the interest of the fighter that brings in the most money to the local economy, in this case Vegas. I'm all for OST, but you can't paint one person with a Scarlett letter, simply because they have been successful.
          Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 07-07-2010, 11:16 AM.

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          • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            All reports from outlets are coming from Arum. No one else. I don't care about the split to be honest. If it's slightly more for Floyd or 50-50, either is fine with me. The testing is what could kill the fight IMO. So with that said...

            I'm willing to take a stand right here. I will applaud Manny and crucify for Floyd if Manny offers a reasonable split and FULL testing. Check my post history, you'll see that I was crucifying Floyd prior to his return on a daily basis. The problem with Pacquiao fans are that they aren't fans, they're stans. And if they find out that this brand new offer was a 14-day cutoff for OST, they will find some way to rationalize it. Will you do that as well?

            I do care about the split. It's the principle of it all. If Manny were the Bigger draw EVERYBODY would be coming down on Floyd for wanting 50/50 but now that Floyd is the bigger draw he should accept 50/50? BULL****!!!!!!! This has to be done fair and square. It could be 55/45 I dont give a f**k about the actuals as long as it's fair.

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            • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
              I do care about the split. It's the principle of it all. If Manny were the Bigger draw EVERYBODY would be coming down on Floyd for wanting 50/50 but now that Floyd is the bigger draw he should accept 50/50? BULL****!!!!!!! This has to be done fair and square. It could be 55/45 I dont give a f**k about the actuals as long as it's fair.
              Lol you care about money that you'll never see a dime of? Must be nice.

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              • the OST is just smokescreen to give floyd an excuse to duck the fight. that's all that is.

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                • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                  Where I think we reach an impasse with respect to OST, is whether or not we believe one person should serve as the poster boy for OST. I do not, it sets a bad precedent in my opinion.

                  OST is needed and warranted, in an already danger filled sport, that much we agree on. We just disagree and how we get there and how it's conducted. I'm all for uniformed regulation, wasn't this something McCain showed interest in creating? Jurisdictions seem to win out and it's because those jurisdictions are their to serve their local economies and not the well being of the participants. Floyd fights in Vegas because he can treat his hands (I could care less about this issue also), other states view the issue differently, a different set of standards all of which favor the fighter who brings in the biggest gate/PPV. Something is wrong in that system, is it about the money of well-being of the participants? A commission should decide not the jurisdiction, who is their only in name to serve the interest of the fighter who brings in the most money to their local economy, in this case Vegas.
                  The commission will never try and implement it. You can take that to the bank. They didn't want to implement steroid testing at all. People always say, "take the request to the commission." That's nonsense. That's the last place you want to take the request because they will kill it. The testing we have today began with a bout here, a bout there. Fighters were just putting it into the contracts because the commission felt any kind of steroid testing was unnecessary. It took them almost TEN years to start testing and most states still don't test. How sad is that?

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                  • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
                    Because that man Manny went to hell and back with, weighed as much Michael Jackson did in his final days, minus the diamond encrusted glove. In the words of Vince Vaughn .."c'mon baby you're better than that".

                    Floyd aint scared of Manny. To say that is saying it was Floyd's fault the fight didnt happen in March like it should have. Manny made himself suspect with all the BS excuses. OST was the reason the fight didnt happen in March there is absolutely no other reason. Floyd desperately wanted that fight. Manny made excuses from the time negotiations started until the fight was called off now I know your better than that. Your an intelligent dude you just need to call that what it was. Floyd agreed to every damn thing Manny looked for excuses in everything.

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                    • Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                      I do care about the split. It's the principle of it all. If Manny were the Bigger draw EVERYBODY would be coming down on Floyd for wanting 50/50 but now that Floyd is the bigger draw he should accept 50/50? BULL****!!!!!!! This has to be done fair and square. It could be 55/45 I dont give a f**k about the actuals as long as it's fair.
                      I agree but 55/45 should be the limit. 60/40 is a bit overboard. It's not as if Pac is some nobody. He deserves respect - lots of it. And I have no problems with 50/50 either. But I understand the split will probably favor Floyd at this point.

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