Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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  • jrosales13
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    #201
    Originally posted by check hook
    Tito does rule.....unless you know how to smother a left hook like Delahoya and Hopkins.....then he is an relatively easy beat. Sorry had to be said.
    Well in Oscar case if it is a 8 round fight then yest it is clear win... Too bad it was a 12 round fight. That makes it not so easy.

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      #202
      Originally posted by check hook
      There is two courses of action:

      1. make PED's illegal, and enforce the rule vigourously

      OR

      2. Make them legal = an even playing field.


      Right now boxing is somewhere in the middle.

      I vote for number 2.

      And Salido was a solid pro. He won his last three and extracted revenge on the punching machine, Cristobal Cruz.

      I do think Guerrero was overhyped cuz he's such a nice guy but even Yordan who Caballero butchered was giving him hell.

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        #203
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Well in Oscar case if it is a 8 round fight then yest it is clear win... Too bad it was a 12 round fight. That makes it not so easy.


        Oscar won...but that's one guy i really don't care they robbed against SSM (fight number two) and against Tito. He clearly lost to Sturm and Pea IMHO, and arguablty Quartey.

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          #204
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Well in Oscar case if it is a 8 round fight then yest it is clear win... Too bad it was a 12 round fight. That makes it not so easy.
          All DLH had to do, was act like he was fighting for one round and he should've won but he didn't.

          Disappointing, and I am not a dlh fan.

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            #205
            Originally posted by jreckoning
            I vote for number 2.

            And Salido was a solid pro. He won his last three and extracted revenge on the punching machine, Cristobal Cruz.

            I do think Guerrero was overhyped cuz he's such a nice guy but even Yordan who Caballero butchered was giving him hell.


            who's to say those weren't aided by PED's?

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              #206
              Originally posted by check hook
              who's to say those weren't aided by PED's?

              Who's to say they were?

              It's the same ****.


              We can go around in circles.


              I don't like cops and rules, you guys do.

              I respect your opinions but I will never be in favor of a police state especially when it comes to drugs.

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              • Danny Gunz
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                #207
                Honestly if i was a pro boxer that needed an slight edge to be pushed from mediocrity into making millions or a college football player that needed to step up his game in order to get into the nfl I would probably take steroids.

                Im not defending it or saying its right but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. So its hard for me to label some pros as scumbags or embaressments cause that would make me a hypocrite.

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Danny Gunz
                  Honestly if i was a pro boxer that needed an slight edge to be pushed from mediocrity into making millions or a college football player that needed to step up his game in order to get into the nfl I would probably take steroids.

                  Im not defending it or saying its right but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. So its hard for me to label some pros as scumbags or embaressments cause that would make me a hypocrite.
                  But in the process as you gain a lot of fans; you've already conned them, and who knows for how many years. See me, I don't support cheaters.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by check hook
                    Oscar won...but that's one guy i really don't care they robbed against SSM (fight number two) and against Tito. He clearly lost to Sturm and Pea IMHO, and arguablty Quartey.
                    No, Tito won it was not a robbery it was a close fight that could of gone either way. Oscar did jack **** the last 4 rounds and didn't win every single round for the first 8 rounds... How can you see for the first 8 rounds and say wow I have 8-0 Oscar? The Shane rematch wasn't a robbery either.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by check hook
                      Try overtraining with synthetic EPO, testostrone and steroids running through your veins. You're muscles won't fatigue, and when they do they will recover quicker.

                      It's naive to think PED's somehow won't help your performance in this sport. Imagine a Jermain Taylor or Zab Judah who doesn't gas because they used EPO for ten weeks before the fight-----> they may win a fight they otherwise lose.
                      How about using EPO two weeks before a fight, just when you are TONING DOWN YOUR TRAINING? Would that benefit a fighter in any way?

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