Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think a lot of boxing is psychological.

They believe they are improved but would still get schooled had they not had the skills.

Boxing isn't a weightlifting contest.

I mean I know guys that bench 400, and punch like chicks.

I think it's one sport that skill and technique matter way more than anything else.

You're missing the point.

Lets start here:

If a fighter who has **** stamina take EPO and gains more rounds then he can usually go. Did the drug help him gain stamina yes or no?

You are wayyyy to high on boxing. Skill my ass bro. There are cheats in EVERY sport.

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I think that all drugs should be legal. I've never waivered on that stance.


If they feel it helps them, then they should go for it.

I don't believe it does.

Surely you are joking?

[Guest]

No one cares if you don't buy it. You can sit here and pretend PEDs don't help but luckily, not everyone is as foolish as you.

Still no examples, huh?

I mean not one in the history of the sport?

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That defeats the purpose of sports.

Its suppose to be a leveled playing field.

whats more level than WIDE THE **** OPEN????

there's always gonna be cheaters... but if you take away the cheating, everyone is clean...

if the doping is legal, anyone can do it.... look at the NFL, it works fine there

although its not technically legal, nobody cares... and everyone does it

[Guest]

Surely you are joking?

Can't you give an example?

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Can't you give an example?

Of what?

brb....lunchtime.....back in 30.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

this is exactly the point


not everyone that trains at high altitudes for an 'upper hand' ends up winning... nor is there substantial proof that anyone that trains in this manner can credit a win to it...

so regardless of HOW you come about it.... its not as relevant as its being made out to be... if you're no good, you're no good

Win or lose isnt the issue. You can take PEDS and still suck ass.

The point is it ENHANCES performances.

It makes you recover faster.
Train longer.
Train harder.
Increases stamina.
Increase speed.
In creases strength.


THAT we do know. How that doesnt apply to boxing is just a joke.

[Guest]

You're missing the point.

Lets start here:

If a fighter who has **** stamina take EPO and gains more rounds then he can usually go. Did the drug help him gain stamina yes or no?

You are wayyyy to high on boxing. Skill my ass bro. There are cheats in EVERY sport.

I want everyone to have access to everything. That way there is no "cheating".

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Still no examples, huh?

I mean not one in the history of the sport?

An example of what exactly? You're asking one of those dumb ass questions and waiting for an answer? I thought you were smarter than that. What is your point here? That PEDs don't work? Well then you're just a dumb muthaphukka

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HAT replicates the effects of EPO, but it's not going to boost your hemocrait the way a synthetic blood booster will. Tour de Farce riders train and ride (the tour) at high altitude-----> they are the ultimate example of athletes who train at altitude, yet they still feel the need to use EPO, transfusions, testosterone and other HBOC's. Why do you think that is??

its simple... they're always trying to get a more upper hand...

if they could train at 40,000 feet would they??? absolutely, since they can't they'll take something that replicates it... makes sense... just further enhancing something thats already oh so natural