Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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If you're going to go all "Pac fan pinoy" style of posting dont even bother.


Surely you arent implying that PEDS should be legal...are you?


Is this a sarcastic point..I cant tell.

man, i dont care if we're talking pac, floyd, shane, whoever...

how is my point not legit??? yes it looks sarcastic, but that IS the point...

who says where the line gets drawn, and at what point?

why can't these athletes be free to do as they please with their bodies? open it up.... that will shine the light on it...


if its all legal, we'll all know what they're taking.... make an 'open class'

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People are confusing MAGIC PILL that doesnt exist by the way.

To PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS.

Its not a pill that teaches you how to box or how to defend yourself.

Of course there isn't.

So who won a championship who had the skill to win it, by use of peds?

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im not arguing for or against your point, just saying that all along when people bitched about bonds hitting so many home runs and juicing, the counter was, how are PEDs helping him make contact with the ball etc

and some people would show that it does help with relfex/coordination....

like i said, 'rumor has it'

i never cared to look into it further, i think its all BS....

Its a silly argument with those who havent played baseball, its basically common sense though, I played in high school. If you can hit well as Bonds could already, being stronger is only going to help hit the ball even further. Bonds sounded silly when he said roids cant help a man make contact, no they cant, but he wouldnt have ever been in the big leagues long if he couldnt make consistent contact.

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Im lost here if a guy who can only max out at 8 rounds takes PEDS and go the extra 4 how does that NOT help him?

I mean we have boxers that have been caught roiding and taking PEDS. We have Conte on LITR Radio saying he knew boxers that take stuff and that havent been caught.

Honestly, if this is the argument now then the average is as dumb as rocks and deserves the bloated, fake a** fighters they cheer for.

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So a drug that increase stamina, speed and strength wont help a boxer?

What the fuck?

so will training at high altitudes.... is that something you want banned?

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I don't buy it. I know people who prepared more and were overtrained, fighters I personally knew.

Nothing helped them.


I think it's a joke that there isn't one proven case of a fighter being improved on fight night by peds.

No one has provided one example of this in this thread.

I will wait.

Jreck thats really a childish point you are trying to make. You are basically saying what fighters have showed PED improvements with boxings ****ty ass testing system.

How about we stick to what we know.

And thats the benefits of PEDS.

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I don't buy it. I know people who prepared more and were overtrained, fighters I personally knew.

Nothing helped them.


I think it's a joke that there isn't one proven case of a fighter being improved on fight night by peds.

No one has provided one example of this in this thread.

I will wait.

If it didnt help in some way they wouldnt be taken it correct?

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man, i dont care if we're talking pac, floyd, shane, whoever...

how is my point not legit??? yes it looks sarcastic, but that IS the point...

who says where the line gets drawn, and at what point?

why can't these athletes be free to do as they please with their bodies? open it up.... that will shine the light on it...


if its all legal, we'll all know what they're taking.... make an 'open class'

Its a silly argument with those who havent played baseball, its basically common sense though, I played in high school. If you can hit well as Bonds could already, being stronger is only going to help hit the ball even further. Bonds sounded silly when he said roids cant help a man make contact, no they cant, but he wouldnt have ever been in the big leagues long if he couldnt make consistent contact.

I played hoops and baseball in hs too.

Props to you man.

But, boxing was my love unfortunately.. LOL.

The difference between hs and college and single a in those sports is staggering.

I mean you have to be a whole nother level to start with.

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so will training at high altitudes.... is that something you want banned?

Goodness where do you people come from?

Is the oxygen and benefits you gain from high altitude training natural or do you shoot in wit a syringe.

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I don't buy it. I know people who prepared more and were overtrained, fighters I personally knew.

Nothing helped them.


I think it's a joke that there isn't one proven case of a fighter being improved on fight night by peds.

No one has provided one example of this in this thread.

I will wait.

Try overtraining with synthetic EPO, testostrone and steroids running through your veins. You're muscles won't fatigue, and when they do they will recover quicker.

It's naive to think PED's somehow won't help your performance in this sport. Imagine a Jermain Taylor or Zab Judah who doesn't gas because they used EPO for ten weeks before the fight-----> they may win a fight they otherwise lose.