Andre Ward Speaking about Victor Conte and Steroid Testing

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jreck, who is veteran??

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if a fighter who has **** stamina trains at high altitude and gains more rounds THAN he can usually do, did the training help him gain more stamina yes or no?

the EPO wont help him if he doesnt put the time in

FFS put Judah on EPO, do you think he'll be magic all of the sudden and finish a fight?!?!?

Dude have you ever lifted weights or been around that type of environment??


Who said anything about not putting time in. OFCORSE you have to train WHILE on EPO to see the results you want.

You cant just pop roids and turn into the incredible hulk without lifting weights.

You beating around the bush. One last time:

"If a fighter who has **** stamina take EPO and gains more rounds then he can usually go. Did the drug help him gain stamina yes or no?"

[Guest]

Wait a sec, is this an alt?

Make drugs legal.

I mean your screen name screams weed.

You should be with us.


We're not cops man.

We're the common man.

Come join us

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jreck, who is veteran??

why dont you ask him

[IMDAZED]

no, you said 'minions'

as in plural

So you're not jreck...?

[IMDAZED]

he took PEDs and lost




check out Fernando Vargas vs Oscar de la Hoya

You see, if you knew boxing you wouldn't come up with those examples. Please show how Vargas wasn't helped by PEDs.

[Guest]

Dude have you ever lifted weights or been around that type of environment??


Who said anything about not putting time in. OFCORSE you have to train WHILE on EPO to see the results you want.

You cant just pop roids and turn into the incredible hulk without lifting weights.

You beating around the bush. One last time:

"If a fighter who has **** stamina take EPO and gains more rounds then he can usually go. Did the drug help him gain stamina yes or no?"

I've never seen a bodybuilder become a champ. Boxing is different.

You have to have the skill then I think it's legit to do drugs to aid in other areas.

I think it's cool if Ward did drugs to improve his stamina, but truthfully I doubt he did.

[Guest]

You see, if you knew boxing you wouldn't come up with those examples. Please show how Vargas wasn't helped by PEDs.

Vargas was 100-5 as an amateur.

Are you denying he had skills?

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Based on him getting KTFO.

I did my example, now do yours.

I will wait.

Jreck I know you are a smart knowledgeable but the gig is up. Stop trolling man...lmao.


So because he was TKO'd means they didnt work.

Who said you would win every fight? No pill can teach you how to box. They do increase speed, stamina, strength, etc.

If that was increased then they worked. You think every NFL player who takes roids wins every game?

You think every sprinter who cheats wins every race?

Cmon man.

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I've never seen a bodybuilder become a champ. Boxing is different.

You have to have the skill then I think it's legit to do drugs to aid in other areas.

I think it's cool if Ward did drugs to improve his stamina, but truthfully I doubt he did.

How does a person attain skill?