Prime for Prime: Who is more skilled- Judah or Pacquiao?

[Othello]

Skillwise I'd have to say Judah, not by much though.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That is Cotto, Cotto is not Pac... Why not did his power and speed not KO a very limited Mickey Ward? And, he has a chance to KO Pac?

Jro come on man. Being limited has nothing to do with your chin. Paulie, Baldi, Andrade and Marg are limited but their chins are money.

Ward has only been stopped by one person in about 50 fights...Come on bro..lol. That was a bad example. Why didnt he stop Ward? The same reason everyone except Vince Phillips didnt.

Pac can be hurt. He was hurt by Larios, Morales, and Marquez. Zab hits hard enough o stop Pac. They hit hard enough to stop each other. Any thing other then that conclusion is just nut hugging. They both can crack and they both can be hurt.

[Telepath]

And, I like this post from you... The way you describing this kind of reminds me like the way you can describe Judah vs Mickey Ward. And, yet even with Ward suspect defense couple with Zab's handspeed, power, and overall sounder skill couldn't KO Mickey Ward... So I ask if he couldn't KO Pac then how the hell will he win?

Good point, but Mickey Ward had a granite chin. Manny hasn't got a granite chin.

[jrosales13]

Judah has been milking Kellerman hype for over 10 years which never amounted to ****.

For a long time I thought Zab was "talented" only to realize slowly that his talent was always theoretical talent. Which means no real talent. Otherwise he wouldn't be a perennial loser and underachiever.

Pac has real world talent that translates into real world results.

This poll is an insult to him as far as I can tell. Judah is the most glorified journeyman I've seen in a longtime.

What Zab was, he was an athletic flashy fighter with great potential... Who was a 2 division title holder and a unified WW champ. Best wins was Cory Spinks and that was his whole career.

He was an overrated fighter and when people say that he EASILY is more skilled than Pac. Then even his skillset is overrated. However, Jack dude did have some skills and talent he just never put it together properly. Pac has. But, I will say you can debate this. And, I have no problem with people saying Judah is more skilled. Even though I might not see it... I don't think it is really irrational to say Judah has more skills than Pac.

However, to say Judah ia WAY more or EASILY more skilled than Pac. Then that just ...

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Jack thats the biggest myth on NSB. Sometimes I question if people watched the Zu fight.

Zab doesnt have skills? Watch the first round. Man he beat the **** out of Kostya in Round 1. You cant do that without skills. The kid had skills.

I remember watching that fight in "real" time(meaning when it happened,no youtube). Zab was killing Kostya, and he was geting ready to rinse and repeat in the begining of the 2nd round, then he got careless. If he would've stayed down and took the standing 8, he might've made it through the round. And if he would've made it through the round I would put money on it that he would've stopped Tszyu.

[Spray_resistant]

Skills= wins. Pac is more skilled. Judah is a basic fighter with handspeed that fools people.

Skills are not the only factor contributing to wins, no doubt Pac is better overall that is why he is where he is but in this sort of theoretical discussion on paper Judah>Pac in terms of skills.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Good point, but Mickey Ward had a granite chin. Manny hasn't got a granite chin.

Bingo the dude has only been stopped by one person. I mean its not hard to see why Zab didnt stop him. Pac wouldnt stop him either.

[Bhopreign]

another ****ty post with a racist undertone in which you completely ignore the fact that i never said that pac couldn't be KO'd by zab, yet still managed to ignore my question

well done amigo.. i mean, imbecile

You people will never get it.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think people forgetting just how hard he hit.

Floyd has a granite chin. Judah stunned his ass.

He almost stopped Cotto and Zu in the opneing round.

[jrosales13]

Jro come on man. Being limited has nothing to do with your chin. Paulie, Baldi, Andrade and Marg are limited but their chins are money.

Ward has only been stopped by one person in about 50 fights...Come on bro..lol. That was a bad example. Why didnt he stop Ward? The same reason everyone except Vince Phillips didnt.

Pac can be hurt. He was hurt by Larios, Morales, and Marquez. Zab hits hard enough o stop Pac. They hit hard enough to stop each other. Any thing other then that conclusion is just nut hugging. They both can crack and they both can be hurt.

And, Pac chin is what glass?

Larios, Morales, and Marquez have way better punching technique than Judah... Hell Hatton and Cotto hit harder than Larios, Morales, and Marquez yet they didn't have him hurt the way Larios, Morales, and Marquez did. Why? Punching technique, timing, IQ something Judah is not on their level on.... Come on bro... lol. That was a bad example...