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  • Originally posted by Saucy Jacky View Post
    I don't see how this is even an option. Judah lost every big fight he's ever been in.
    This is just about skills though right?

    Judah's issue is a mentally/intangible one, if he had the heart of a great champion like Pac.....who knows, Pac/Judah might be the "super fight" today.

    No doubt Pac his the internal strength that makes him what he is today but on pure skill Judah is better than him.
    Last edited by Spray_resistant; 07-04-2010, 04:57 PM.

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    • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      Not a damn thing....

      And, what gets me is that people also think Judah has a chance to KO Pac...

      This is what I always said Oscar and Judah are the two most overrated fighters in the last 10 years... And, I mean overrated... Every time when it comes to these two fighters in the last 10 years is... They have this, They have that, the skill, the talent, the power, the left hook, the footwork, the blah blah blah... But, they lose every damn big fight in the last 10 years. And, somehow they still capable of ****... I just don't get it.
      In his Prime. Judah has alot of power and alot of speed. He has a chance to KO anybody. I think Pac beats him but we cant act like Judah was Paulie Malinagii. Dude had Cotto on ***** street in round 1.

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      • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
        Not a damn thing....

        And, what gets me is that people also think Judah has a chance to KO Pac...

        This is what I always said Oscar and Judah are the two most overrated fighters in the last 10 years... And, I mean overrated... Every time when it comes to these two fighters in the last 10 years is... They have this, They have that, the skill, the talent, the power, the left hook, the footwork, the blah blah blah... But, they lose every damn big fight in the last 10 years. And, somehow they still capable of ****... I just don't get it.
        judah was the last welterweight undisputed champion thats nothing??????WAR PAC THOUGH!

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        • Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
          Prime for Prime.I think Pac would beat Judah but there is a big chance Judah could take his head off his shoulders.
          the dude i was talking to is saying he would expect zab to ice pac at his CURRENT state, not prime for prime

          secondly, i never said that it couldn't happen. i said that it's laughable to say that zab would KO pac and even put him as a favorite to win

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          • Originally posted by Saucy Jacky View Post
            Whast has Judah done to even warrant this comparison? Outside of his handspeed, his talent level has always been overrated, his punch variety is basic, he throws the same punches in every sequence, his footwork is ****, his defense is average.

            And like I said, he loses every big fight he's ever in.

            I mean, lets get real here.

            Cotto/Judah Cotto/Pac.

            Jack if you cant see the talent a Prime Judah had then bro I dont know what to tell you. Love him or hate him the dude was sick as ****. He just didnt have it mentally. Dont believe me watch him undress Mayweather early in the fight.

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            • Originally posted by DR.ORGYY View Post
              judah was the last welterweight undisputed champion thats nothing??????WAR PAC THOUGH!

              Prime Judah was a threat to ANY one.

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              • Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                Not a damn thing....

                And, what gets me is that people also think Judah has a chance to KO Pac...

                This is what I always said Oscar and Judah are the two most overrated fighters in the last 10 years... And, I mean overrated... Every time when it comes to these two fighters in the last 10 years is... They have this, They have that, the skill, the talent, the power, the left hook, the footwork, the blah blah blah... But, they lose every damn big fight in the last 10 years. And, somehow they still capable of ****... I just don't get it.
                Judah has been milking Kellerman hype for over 10 years which never amounted to ****.

                For a long time I thought Zab was "talented" only to realize slowly that his talent was always theoretical talent. Which means no real talent. Otherwise he wouldn't be a perennial loser and underachiever.

                Pac has real world talent that translates into real world results.

                This poll is an insult to him as far as I can tell. Judah is the most glorified journeyman I've seen in a longtime.

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                • Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
                  the dude i was talking to is saying he would expect zab to ice pac at his CURRENT state, not prime for prime

                  secondly, i never said that it couldn't happen. i said that it's laughable to say that zab would KO pac and even put him as a favorite to win

                  Naw right now Zab is finished.

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                  • Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                    This is just about skills though right?

                    Judah's issue is a mentally/intangible one, if he had the heart of a great champion like Pac.....who knows, Pac/Judah might be the "super fight" today.

                    No doubt Pac his the internal strength that makes him what he is today but on pure skill Judah is better than.
                    Skills= wins. Pac is more skilled. Judah is a basic fighter with handspeed that fools people.
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                    Jack if you cant see the talent a Prime Judah had then bro I dont know what to tell you. Love him or hate him the dude was sick as ****. He just didnt have it mentally. Dont believe me watch him undress Mayweather early in the fight.
                    Speed, speed, speed. Thats all he had.

                    He wasn't that sick. He got ktfo in 2 rounds by the mighty hand of Tzyu.

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                    • We just talking skills and talent people. Not resume, not if hes overrated, not if he lost fights..just skills.

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