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  • Vadrigar.
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    #31
    Originally posted by MELLY-MEL...
    lmfao.............true!
    I have a hunch Zab is mentally unstable.

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    • ILLuminato
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      #32
      Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
      It was easy to see that Judah's conditioning leaves a lot to be desired.He clearly struggled working out his abs. Yes he has the 6 pack but falls way shot of Mayweather and Pacquiao's conditioning type. He has the skills no doubt but skills fall the moment the body gets tired. This probably explains why Zab is a 3 round fighter. Zab really needs to up his game if he wants to be taken seriously. He has to push his body beyond limits and probably get a good nutritionist. I think Zab gets fooled by the 6 pack he has but this is boxing which needs some super conditioning.

      I do not understand why his team has never realised that Judah was a 3 round fighter because of conditioning. If Judah trained as hard as he talks he would still be pound for pound top 3. His conditioning is the reason he quits very quickly,his body hasnt been challenged for long.

      LMAO at him trying to do the Mayweather situps, even on the speedbag though he looks like an amateur working out, actually there are some amateurs who work harder

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      • Scott9945
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        #33
        Zab's problem isn't conditioning as much as it is his immaturity which causes lack of focus and concentration.

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        • oaklandstephen
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          #34
          Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
          Zab is a nutcase. He has all the talent in the world. He needs a psychiatrist, not a nutritionist or physical trainer.
          how do u know this? do u know him personally?

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          • brently1979
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            #35
            Zab has had many chances at being a great fighter, but has always come up short.

            He is no longer a kid, he has missed the boat.

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              #36
              In the amateurs people called him Pernell With Power.

              If you never seen him fight in the golden gloves you should see if you can find some vids, he was absolutely amazing.

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                #37
                Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
                I agree. Hameds training camp for barrera was a total wreck. Have you seen that documentary on the fight?

                It was as if hamed's camp were moving into a new house, but failed to settle in. It was almost completely empty.
                Yeah, I watched that one when it debuted. Nice observation, BTW. That and Naz's level of dedication to the work stuck out...his timing and overall form looked as off come fight-night as it did in those sparring-sessions, which says he can't have been working too hard on improving and putting things together throughout the camp.


                I think another parallel you can draw between Zab and Naz that links it up is the 'boy in the bubble' syndrome. That crept up on Naz and put what turned out to be irreparable damage on his career...as soon as it eventually showed against elite opposition in the form of an 'L' on his record, he was pretty much done. With Judah it seemed to set in even earlier, with all the fanfare he received and the promise of future Glory he probably felt destined for, and he was found out much earlier against an elite guy...or course, he was neither ready nor in a position to retire like Naz with a career, a fortune and a Legacy already established, and what happened against Tszyu seemed to set a tone of instability and underachievement for the rest of his career (although things came together on his best night against Spinks, which you have to give him credit for).




                As for Zab being mentally unbalanced,

                one thing I would say is that his father's presence in the corner doesn't help with that at all. As well-intentioned as he and his methods may be, all Yoel does is shout at Zab, and not much of it is practical or strategic. Look at the Judah corners between rounds in some of his fights - the more rounds pass, the more he seems to lose interest and fail to absorb whatever's being barked at him and his gaze and concentration seem to drift into space and a state of bewilderment or wonder at his surroundings...then he gets up off his stool and just survives out there on whatever instincts he has.


                Maybe it's that Zab is just an impenetrable fool...but I would have loved to have seen him with a different, calmer and more tactically minded corner for a series of fights, just to see how that would've worked out.









                Originally posted by AddiX
                In the amateurs people called him Pernell With Power.

                If you never seen him fight in the golden gloves you should see if you can find some vids, he was absolutely amazing.
                I was actually thinking of Zab's origins as something of a Whitaker heir in his amateur days when I was replying to -D33Pwaters-' "Floyd wannabe" comment.



                As a young guy he was sparring the veteran Pete and actually hanging with him.

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                • Irish Hitman
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                  #38
                  Zab Has BEEN KEEPING IN SHAPE ALL YEAR, HE'S BEEN SPARRING WITH FLOYD FOR SOME TIME NOW, SPARRED WITH HIM FOR MOSLEY FIGHT, BELIEVE ME THIS ZAB JUDAH IS READY

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                  • Vadrigar.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ILLuminato
                    LMAO at him trying to do the Mayweather situps, even on the speedbag though he looks like an amateur working out, actually there are some amateurs who work harder
                    He treats boxing as a cheap whore that you can just use and abuse. He isn't going to be in the sport much longer with this disrespectful attitude.

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                    • Vadrigar.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RAGE OF ANGELS
                      Yeah, I watched that one when it debuted. Nice observation, BTW. That and Naz's level of dedication to the work stuck out...his timing and overall form looked as off come fight-night as it did in those sparring-sessions, which says he can't have been working too hard on improving and putting things together throughout the camp.


                      I think another parallel you can draw between Zab and Naz that links it up is the 'boy in the bubble' syndrome. That crept up on Naz and put what turned out to be irreparable damage on his career...as soon as it eventually showed against elite opposition in the form of an 'L' on his record, he was pretty much done. With Judah it seemed to set in even earlier, with all the fanfare he received and the promise of future Glory he probably felt destined for, and he was found out much earlier against an elite guy...or course, he was neither ready nor in a position to retire like Naz with a career, a fortune and a Legacy already established, and what happened against Tszyu seemed to set a tone of instability and underachievement for the rest of his career (although things came together on his best night against Spinks, which you have to give him credit for).




                      As for Zab being mentally unbalanced,

                      one thing I would say is that his father's presence in the corner doesn't help with that at all. As well-intentioned as he and his methods may be, all Yoel does is shout at Zab, and not much of it is practical or strategic. Look at the Judah corners between rounds in some of his fights - the more rounds pass, the more he seems to lose interest and fail to absorb whatever's being barked at him and his gaze and concentration seem to drift into space and a state of bewilderment or wonder at his surroundings...then he gets up off his stool and just survives out there on whatever instincts he has.


                      Maybe it's that Zab is just an impenetrable fool...but I would have loved to have seen him with a different, calmer and more tactically minded corner for a series of fights, just to see how that would've worked out.










                      I was actually thinking of Zab's origins as something of a Whitaker heir in his amateur days when I was replying to -D33Pwaters-' "Floyd wannabe" comment.



                      As a young guy he was sparring the veteran Pete and actually hanging with him.
                      Excellent post. Green K

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