Zab Judah is not fit

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  • Vadrigar.
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    #21
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Zab would beat just about any SLW or WW in a 4 rounder, I give him that much.
    He already beat Floyd in a 4 rounder

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #22
      Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
      He already beat Floyd in a 4 rounder
      He really did, 3-1 I had it........shame about the rematch in the 5 round and beyond though.

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        #23
        Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
        It was easy to see that Judah's conditioning leaves a lot to be desired.He clearly struggled working out his abs. Yes he has the 6 pack but falls way shot of Mayweather and Pacquiao's conditioning type. He has the skills no doubt but skills fall the moment the body gets tired. This probably explains why Zab is a 3 round fighter. Zab really needs to up his game if he wants to be taken seriously. He has to push his body beyond limits and probably get a good nutritionist. I think Zab gets fooled by the 6 pack he has but this is boxing which needs some super conditioning.

        I do not understand why his team has never realised that Judah was a 3 round fighter because of conditioning. If Judah trained as hard as he talks he would still be pound for pound top 3. His conditioning is the reason he quits very quickly,his body hasnt been challenged for long.

        I sense a bit of a slight subliminal thrown up against Mayweather here.

        Like he beat a unconditioned Judah, the thing is what's unconditioned about Judah is his brain. He reportedly trained at his hardest for the Spinks rematch, doing 12 miles of road work per day and KO'd him.

        He reportedly did the same for the Mayweather fight, shutting down any reporters and distractions from entering his camp. The thing is, he just got broken down by Mayweather. Floyd wasn't a monster in there but little things choped Judah down mentally, inch by inch. It wasn't so much that Judah was dead tired but frustruated. Judah was at a point in the fight where he wasn't sure of his boxing stance, imitating Floyd's shoulder roll one second, and switching it up to a different stance the next. He was all over the place.

        In conclusion: I do not think he trains as hard as Mayweather or Pacquiao or some of the other known gym **** and he never has. In his prime he was a bit like Roy Jones, just worrying about looking pretty posturing in the gym and just doing enough to get by and look physically cut and fit. And he got away with it earlier on at 140 but that's where the RJJ comparison ends.

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          #24
          Many people may disagree but I honestly think Zab was never that good to begin with.....I don't get this "he had all the talent in the world but...." talk

          yeah he was athletic but so what? It takes way more than that to make a champion or elite fighter

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            #25
            I don;t know if he struggled with the ab work or if he just didn't have proper support from the guy holding his foot in a half ass manner. Either way I hope Zab can make a splash at 140lbs.

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              #26
              Originally posted by -D33Pwaters-
              IMO he was a Floyd wannabe...............He never really grew into himself, but immitated others. That's what killed it for him.
              I wouldn't say he was a Floyd wannabe, but I think he's certainly come to look at Floyd as what he coulda, shoulda, woulda been if he'd had his **** together.


              I'm sure that's something he acknowledges consciously, even if he wouldn't admit as much to anyone but himself.



              As for using that as a motivator to salvage something from whatever's left of his career, it would be more heartening to see a quietly dedicated Judah going at his work with some intense resolve than just indulging and deluding himself with some Mayweather swagger******* while going through the motions of a workout.

              I'd hope it wouldn't be representative of his 'real' training in a camp, but that work in the video looks indisciplined and disinterested...actually reminds me somewhat of Hamed's awful training form for Barrera, except Zab at this stage really has no excuse for being complacent, he should be working hard as he can to save his career.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
                Zab is a nutcase. He has all the talent in the world. He needs a psychiatrist, not a nutritionist or physical trainer.
                lmfao.............true!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by _original_
                  Many people may disagree but I honestly think Zab was never that good to begin with.....I don't get this "he had all the talent in the world but...." talk

                  yeah he was athletic but so what? It takes way more than that to make a champion or elite fighter
                  I sort of see where you're coming from but he had grade A speed, no doubt about that, and a lot of wallop on those punches. He ****ed Cotto up a few times on one lightning left uppercut that came out of nowhere.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by _original_
                    Many people may disagree but I honestly think Zab was never that good to begin with.....I don't get this "he had all the talent in the world but...." talk

                    yeah he was athletic but so what? It takes way more than that to make a champion or elite fighter
                    Exactly, he took his talents as far as it could go.

                    He blasted out bums when he was supposed to, he got ko'd by champions for playing around too much ending up doing the chicken dance, he lost his head against mandatories (Baldo) who he thought would crumble eventually but didn't. And he was never gonna beat Floyd anyway, using excuses for that fight is just bandwagon talk, he prepared as good as he could for that one.

                    The one time where he prepared just as well was for the Spinks rematch and that time it paid off and he became Undisputed Champion for a while. So he did what he could for mentally weak nitwit.

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                    • Vadrigar.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by RAGE OF ANGELS
                      I wouldn't say he was a Floyd wannabe, but I think he's certainly come to look at Floyd as what he coulda, shoulda, woulda been if he'd had his **** together.


                      I'm sure that's something he acknowledges consciously, even if he wouldn't admit as much to anyone but himself.



                      As for using that as a motivator to salvage something from whatever's left of his career, it would be more heartening to see a quietly dedicated Judah going at his work with some intense resolve than just indulging and deluding himself with some Mayweather swagger******* while going through the motions of a workout.

                      I'd hope it wouldn't be representative of his 'real' training in a camp, but that work in the video looks indisciplined and disinterested...actually reminds me somewhat of Hamed's awful training form for Barrera, except Zab at this stage really has no excuse for being complacent, he should be working hard as he can to save his career.
                      I agree. Hameds training camp for barrera was a total wreck. Have you seen that documentary on the fight?

                      It was as if hamed's camp were moving into a new house, but failed to settle in. It was almost completely empty.

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