Originally posted by ricecrispi
The most durable fighter of all time..
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In terms of just plain ability to soak up punishment (and not just chin) I think the obvious answer is Joe Grim. A middleweight with poor skills who stood up to vicious heavyweight punchers.Comment
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Genji Kamogawa deserves a mention. Tough Japanese mofo. Not only did he have a never dying fighting spirit, but his training methods were insane. He pounded a log into the side of a mountain with his bare fists! Not only did he have an iron will, but iron fists.Comment
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[[[[Oh, don't think im trying to discredit george foreman. just like im pretty sure you do (if i remember correctly, ) out of all the fighters who ever put on the gloves, i consider him number one, in chin, stamina, power, technique, footwork, will, and general ring intelligence..
But the fact that he was up at 9 and walked off just makes me not want to put him in there as a durable fighter, if u dont have it mentally u dont have it at all. again i realize this was vs ali, the best fighter at the point in time.]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
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Obviously one side of your brain don't know what the other is saying. Foreman was up in 9 sec in the ref 10 count. The ref waved him off from advancing on Ali who collapsed in the ring sec later much like he did in Manila years later in the fight with Frazier that he took a similar beating in and was behind on the cards.
Like anyone, George has his share of problems, but saying he didn't have it together mentally when he operated at the highest level in the modern era is just gooflike.Comment
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Depending on how you would measure durability, it's Harry Greb or Sam Langford. Sam had 314 bouts, almost all of them heavy bouts that he first started challenging when Sam hit the 150 lb mark. Sam dominated his era and was around 29 or so with over 100 wins before he started to slip to a prime Wills. Sam probably had at least 60 bouts against HOFers, most of them the toughest prime heavies of his era. He was also going blind when he started to lose most of his bouts, but he was still the most dangerous fighter of his era.
As far as I know Sam has the most heavy bouts of any in history and the most heavy KOs.
Harry Greb fought 300 bouts, losing only 8 against a smorgasborg of HOF fighters. Greb also fought half his career blind in one eye. He was only stopped twice early in his career, and one of those stoppages was because of a broken arm. Greb died at age 32 during surgery, so I doubt any top fighter in history ever packed together as intense a career as did Greb in the 14 yrs he fought. That averages to over 20 bouts a year.Comment
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