why joe calzaghe never came to america earlier

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  • daggum
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    #61
    Originally posted by ZealousM15
    Even a stone has its purpose!
    thats true. a lot of them were used for calzaghe title defenses.

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    • jermainerambo
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      #62
      Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
      At 160 the only one worth mentioning is a younger Hopkins. At 175 to name a few you had a prime Jones, Montel Griffin, Michaczewski, Tarver, Erdei, Virgil Hill, Henry Maske.

      Unfortunately the most recognizable names at 168 were going up or not fighting any more when Joe started his move. Benn was done, Steve Collins didn't stick around long enough, McCallum had moved up but was at the end of his career, McCleallan was tragic.

      I would like to see how Joe would had fared against these guys but the timing wasn't there and his division wasn't loaded as it used to be. He fougt the available competition but wasn't nearly as good.

      His comming out party to the world was agaisnt Kessler, he adjusted like a master in that fight and took it over. Unfortunately his best match-ups and fights came at the end of his career and makes you wonder why he didn't match himself up against the top names earlier cause he had the stuff to beat anyone of them in their prime


      At 175 to name a few you had a prime Jones, Montel Griffin, Michaczewski, Tarver, Erdei, Virgil Hill, Henry Maske

      why didnt roy jones fight Henry Maske?...

      why didnt roy jones fight Michaczewski?....

      why didnt roy jones fight Erdei?....

      Montel Griffin and Virgil Hill got beat by Michaczewski and Tarver is the 35 year old man who knockout jones


      all the guys you name is roy jones,s business/unfinished business

      joe calzaghe was the best at 168 he beat the best at 160 and the so called best at 175

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      • BrotherDudeJack
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        #63
        Originally posted by jermainerambo
        At 175 to name a few you had a prime Jones, Montel Griffin, Michaczewski, Tarver, Erdei, Virgil Hill, Henry Maske

        why didnt roy jones fight Henry Maske?...

        why didnt roy jones fight Michaczewski?....

        why didnt roy jones fight Erdei?....

        Montel Griffin and Virgil Hill got beat by Michaczewski and Tarver is the 35 year old man who knockout jones


        all the guys you name is roy jones,s business/unfinished business

        joe calzaghe was the best at 168 he beat the best at 160 and the so called best at 175

        I'm convinced....

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        • TOBYLEE1
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          #64
          Originally posted by jermainerambo
          At 175 to name a few you had a prime Jones, Montel Griffin, Michaczewski, Tarver, Erdei, Virgil Hill, Henry Maske

          why didnt roy jones fight Henry Maske?...

          why didnt roy jones fight Michaczewski?....

          why didnt roy jones fight Erdei?....

          Montel Griffin and Virgil Hill got beat by Michaczewski and Tarver is the 35 year old man who knockout jones


          all the guys you name is roy jones,s business/unfinished business

          joe calzaghe was the best at 168 he beat the best at 160 and the so called best at 175

          Dont deflect, we are talking about Joe not Roy. You were asking and I answered. Now all you are doing now is looking at their record at the end of their careers or till now. If you were a fan back then then you know those guys brought something to the table. You are now trying to fit it so it can look good with your agenda. I never said that Joe wasn't a good fighter either. So by your analogy Joe should had fought Tarver sometime before he KOed Jones.

          Do a little research and watch some of those fights

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          • jermainerambo
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            #65
            Originally posted by TOBYLEE1
            Dont deflect, we are talking about Joe not Roy. You were asking and I answered. Now all you are doing now is looking at their record at the end of their careers or till now. If you were a fan back then then you know those guys brought something to the table. You are now trying to fit it so it can look good with your agenda. I never said that Joe wasn't a good fighter either. So by your analogy Joe should had fought Tarver sometime before he KOed Jones.

            Do a little research and watch some of those fights


            joe calzaghe's hit list




            2 out of 4 not bad 50% i guess !!!

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              #66
              Originally posted by jermainerambo
              At 175 to name a few you had a prime Jones, Montel Griffin, Michaczewski, Tarver, Erdei, Virgil Hill, Henry Maske

              why didnt roy jones fight Henry Maske?...

              why didnt roy jones fight Michaczewski?....

              why didnt roy jones fight Erdei?....

              Montel Griffin and Virgil Hill got beat by Michaczewski and Tarver is the 35 year old man who knockout jones


              all the guys you name is roy jones,s business/unfinished business

              joe calzaghe was the best at 168 he beat the best at 160 and the so called best at 175
              kelly pavlik?chad dawson?

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              • jermainerambo
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                #67
                Originally posted by Alec900
                kelly pavlik?chad dawson?

                kelly pavlik was a middleweight that got beat by a old man that's why the fight never happened


                chad who?.........i think that is the guy that got beat by jean,and jean got beat by carl froch and froch got beat by? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

                joe calzaghe beat?_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

                so chad and pavlik got beat by guys calzaghe? _ _ _ _

                fill in the blanks

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jermainerambo
                  kelly pavlik was a middleweight that got beat by a old man that's why the fight never happened


                  chad who?.........i think that is the guy that got beat by jean,and jean got beat by carl froch and froch got beat by? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

                  joe calzaghe beat?_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

                  so chad and pavlik got beat by guys calzaghe? _ _ _ _

                  fill in the blanks
                  Triangle theories don't work in boxing. Try again. You must have been watching the sport recently

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                  • BattlingNelson
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jermainerambo
                    If all the top super middleweights are Europeans why go to America? Who was there to fight?

                    Bernard Hopkins was a middleweight scared to set foot in Joe Calzaghe's division; he never fought at 168 pounds, why is that?

                    Roy Jones never fought the best in any weight class he fought in. Joe Calzaghe called him out for years and years and when Roy Jones called Calzaghe out he got the ass-whooping when he wanted it.

                    Joe Calzaghe beat the best America had to offer 10 yanks fought for Calzaghe’s title, 10 came up short.

                    Joe Calzaghe beat Bhop and Jones, prime or not they lost. Go to boxrec, go to youtube and see for yourself they lost.

                    Joe Calzaghe is the best of this era.

                    We all know that Roy Jones has 7 losses and Bhop has 5 losses, how can people say they would've beat Joe Calzaghe in their primes, do the math (46-0=46)

                    A career is judged when it is over, not when a guy is in his prime
                    Then why didnt he accept Sauerlands great purse for fighting Ottke in Germany?

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                    • NinjaMan!
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                      #70
                      Calzaghe's resume is the biggest joke on the planet. I mean at least try to unify 1 part of the title in 20 fights. Jeez.

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