*Breaking news* Klitschko Bros Just Got Cut By HBO...

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  • Dave Rado
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    #171
    Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
    that rado guy is more conceited than the pope. trying to play the race card because the klitskcho are ****ing boring to watch on television.
    You're the one bringing up race, not me, you idiot.

    Originally posted by Clayton Bigsby
    americans appreciate entertaining genius. no matter where they are from.


    see the beatles.

    see the rollingstones.

    see the roger federer.

    see usain bolt.

    see manny pacquiao.


    see every entertaining NON AMERICAN genius.


    Do the klitsckhos qualify as entertaining genius in their profession?
    You're completely missing the point. The point is that Americans will pay to watch American fighters who are not entertaining, just as Brits will pay to watch Brits who are not entertaining, Germans will pay to watch German-based fighters who are not entertaining, and fight fans from every country in the world will pay to watch top fighters from their own country who are not entertaining.

    The point is not whether Americans pay to watch the most entertaining foreign fighters, the point is whether they are as likely to watch a non-American boring fighter who is a good fighter as they are to watch an American boring fighter who is a good fighter.

    If you are seriously claiming that they are, or that anyone from any country is as willing to pay to watch a top fighter who is boring who is not from their country as they are to pay to watch a top fighter who is boring who is from their country, then you are simply being ridiculous.

    And as I've pointed out over and over again, HBO have been loyal to a very large number of boring American fighters over the years. I don't criticise them for that, they're in business to make a profit, and it's simply human nature that American fight fans, like fight fans from every country in the world, are more interested in watching boring fighters from their own country than they are in watching boring fighters from other countries.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 07-03-2010, 09:10 PM.

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    • Joeyzagz
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      #172
      Originally posted by No Ceilings
      H

      Dave Rado and Tunney play the race card more than Al Sharpton.
      Its so funny to see you and Tunney go at it. Easily the two most racist idiots on this forum trying to play the moral high-ground.

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #173
        America has no problem watching Brock Lesnar whos white.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #174
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          America has no problem watching Brock Lesnar whos white.
          What the hell has the colour of his skin got to do with anything??????

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          • B.U.R.N.E.R
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            #175
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            What the hell has the colour of his skin got to do with anything??????

            Tell that to Freedom Fighter.

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            • The Hammer
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              #176
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              America has no problem watching Brock Lesnar whos white.
              The UFC is run by Dana White, not by Ross Greenburg.

              America has no problem watching the Klitschkos, they have lots of fans despite their low media profile. It's just Ross Greenburg and a few media people like Teddy Atlas that don't like them.

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                #177
                Originally posted by Dave Rado
                You're the one bringing up race, not me, you idiot.



                You're completely missing the point. The point is that Americans will pay to watch American fighters who are not entertaining, just as Brits will pay to watch Brits who are not entertaining, Germans will pay to watch German-based fighters who are not entertaining, and fight fans from every country in the world will pay to watch top fighters from their own country who are not entertaining.

                The point is not whether Americans pay to watch the most entertaining foreign fighters, the point is whether they are as likely to watch a non-American boring fighter who is a good fighter as they are to watch an American boring fighter who is a good fighter.

                If you are seriously claiming that they are, or that anyone from any country is as willing to pay to watch a top fighter who is boring who is not from their country as they are to pay to watch a top fighter who is boring who is from their country, then you are simply being ridiculous.

                And as I've pointed out over and over again, HBO have been loyal to a very large number of boring American fighters over the years. I don't criticise them for that, they're in business to make a profit, and it's simply human nature that American fight fans, like fight fans from every country in the world, are more interested in watching boring fighters from their own country than they are in watching boring fighters from other countries.
                That is why the most popular boxers in the US are manny pacquaio(filipino), Cotto(rican), Floyd(african american), and Oscar(retired). Floyd is popular because he is clearly the most skilled boxer in the world in one of one of the hottest weight class and one of the most beautiful defense. And also people pay to watch floyd lose. **** didnt ward vs green almost got canceled in ward's home town because of lack of ticket sales.

                **** yall naming andre berto like he actually a pay per view draw.

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                • Hitman932
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
                  The UFC is run by Dana White, not by Ross Greenburg.

                  America has no problem watching the Klitschkos, they have lots of fans despite their low media profile. It's just Ross Greenburg and a few media people like Teddy Atlas that don't like them.

                  I don't know that it's so much that Greenburg doesn't like them but he needs a scapegoat and the Klitschko's just seem to be the most convenient.

                  He's pretty much run HBO boxing into the ground with the exclusive agreement with GBP for certain dates. Yet since HBO has no way out of the agreement they have no choice but to look outside of the GBP stable for fighters to blame for their failure.

                  Greenburg should be coming out and saying what a bunch of bull**** it is that GBP has these matchups they'd love to feature like Khan-Maidana and instead HBO is being screwed into airing Khan-Malignaggi and how the lack of profit from those type of broadcasts will continue to cost the fans the chance to see fights like Klitschko-Povetkin.

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                  • Allucard
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                    #179
                    Doesn't seem fair. Not the K bros biggest fan myself but they are legit champions. I bet the fact every each one of their opponents failed to even come in shape to fight has something to do with it. The rest of it is the lack of public interest.

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by victorythagr8
                      That is why the most popular boxers in the US are manny pacquaio(filipino), Cotto(rican), Floyd(african american), and Oscar(retired).
                      You're still completely missing the point. For the third time, the issue is not whether Americans will watch the most entertaining overseas fighters, it's whether they are as willing to watch top fighters from overseas who are relatively boring as they are to watch top fighters from the US who are relatively boring. And the answer is that they are not. Just as Germans are more willing to watch relatively boring fighters from Germany than they are to watch relatively boring fighters who are not from Germany. Why is it so difficult for you to understand such a simple fact?

                      Here it is for the fourth time in words of one or two syllables:

                      All fight fans will watch an exciting fighter, wherever they are from. But when it comes to relatively boring fighters, fight fans are much more willing to pay to watch them if they are from their own country.

                      Is that really so hard for you to get your head around???

                      Plus the time difference means that you can't watch the Klitschskos' fights live, if you're in the USA; and the fact that it would have to be on tape delay (or in the early hours of the morning) makes it even less attractive to HBO - and that would be true even if the Klitschskos were a lot more entertaining to watch than they are.

                      The fact is that there are plenty of HBO fighters who are not big draws, and who are not entertaining, and always have been, and almost all such fighters are American.
                      Last edited by Dave Rado; 07-04-2010, 08:38 PM.

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