Comments Thread For: Clottey Breaks Silence: Talks Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito

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Every time he tried to throw at Manny, 3-6-9 punch combos came back at him. HBO commentators were saying this as well. Did you watch the fight?

I agree. To me, Pacquiao was just too good. He is simply on another level than Clottey and it showed. Clottey has checked out (mentally) in fights he could've won, what did anyone expect from him in a fight where he didn't stand a chance? Against a fighter who held a large advantage in cojones? Could Clottey have done more? Probably. But it wouldn't have changed much.

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Clottey said it himself.. did you even read the interview? Did you even watch the fight, he says it in-between rounds. Clottey basically summed up Pacquiao the same way Cotto, Hatton, Diaz, DLH did. Manny hits you with **** you don't see.. with speed/angles/and power.

Yes I read the article T.I., and then I called it bull****.

I don't give a **** what Clottey said, his excuses were a joke.

Clottey also said this.....
1.) I don't know how to explain
2.) I really don't understand what happened to me in that fight
3.) I just think it was one of those things
4.) I knew I could hurt him when I threw my power shots
5.) I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me

Comment number 5, pretty much destroys the "I was getting counter-punched" bull****.

I know what I saw.....

1.) Manny is not a counter-puncher

2.) Every time that Clottey started punching, Manny would cover-up, or Manny would back-up..... but he did not counter-punch

3.) If you actually think that is what happened..... watch the fight again and post back the rounds/times when that happened.

Did you actually watch the fight ?

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I didn't see it that way at all switch.

The point is, when Clottey threw punches..... Manny either covered-up, or he backed-up. I do not remember seeing Manny counter-punch Clottey in that fight.

Only maybe on the odd occasion when they both fired at the same time..... but he did not use counter-punching as a main tactical approach going into that fight.

Most boxers will fire a return from time-to-time, but since when is Manny a counter-puncher?

Clottey seemingly IGNORED the few core fighting instincts that he possesses..... and I'd like to know why?

I think we agree on one thing, clearly Clottey gave up in that fight. I think where we disagree is on the motive, some think it's conspiratorial which is silly, since Clottey holds no capital at all with respect to earning television dates, why would he sell out and suddenly let Pac over run him? It had to do with Pac's output and also Pac can punch, maybe not enough to turn out Clottey's lights, although I got the impression that when Pac first landed punches on Clottey, Clottey was clearly uncomfortable with the idea of opening up. Pac not countering much has a very easy explanation, you can only counter when someone else's output rises, not when they are in a shell. Clottey was in a shell all night and the times he did come out, had more to do with Pac standing in front of him, because wanted to see what Clottey had, get him to open up more. Pac did the same thing with Cotto, he let Cotto open up on him, allowing himself more opportunities to counter and eventually overwhelm Cotto. Pac is a great fighter, a special fighter, nothing more...nothing less.

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Clottey is just no match for pac. But i think he can beat anyone with low workrate like Mayweather and Mosley.

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I agree. To me, Pacquiao was just too good. He is simply on another level than Clottey and it showed. Clottey has checked out (mentally) in fights he could've won, what did anyone expect from him in a fight where he didn't stand a chance? Against a fighter who held a large advantage in cojones? Could Clottey have done more? Probably. But it wouldn't have changed much.

Good post.

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Good post.

Still waitin for those rounds/times when that counter-punching wizard Manny stole Clottey's soul

I would also like you to explain why Clottey was unmarked, and Manny looked like ****

And I would also like you to explain this.....

" I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me "
Joshua Clottey

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Yes I read the article T.I., and then I called it bull****.

I don't give a **** what Clottey said, his excuses were a joke.

Clottey also said this.....
1.) I don't know how to explain
2.) I really don't understand what happened to me in that fight
3.) I just think it was one of those things
4.) I knew I could hurt him when I threw my power shots
5.) I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me

Comment number 5, pretty much destroys the "I was getting counter-punched" bull****.

I know what I saw.....

1.) Manny is not a counter-puncher

2.) Every time that Clottey started punching, Manny would cover-up, or Manny would back-up..... but he did not counter-punch

3.) If you actually think that is what happened..... watch the fight again and post back the rounds/times when that happened.

Did you actually watch the fight ?

1:12 1:18 1:35 1:45 (who's backing up?) 2:03 2:11 2:21 2:29

seriously? Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up then unleash combos..

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You probably still won't see that Clottey was overmatched in this fight. Have a good one..

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The people who actually believe Clottey threw the fight needs to start using some common sense. Why would someone whose already an underdog and whom most predicted to lose throw the fight? That makes absolutely no sense. If it was the other way around and Pacquiao pulled a Clottey (not throw punches because he's afraid of getting put to sleep) and lost, then that would be a good source of su****ion for throwing the fight.

I for one like reading these conspiracy theories, but let's at least make sure they're somewhat reasonable. Clottey throwing the fight to me is like saying Hatton threw the fight because he threw his chin face first into Pacquiao's left hand.

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I would also like you to explain why Clottey was unmarked, and Manny looked like ****

And I would also like you to explain this.....

" I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me "
Joshua Clottey

You trying to find bruises on Clottey? He wasn't cut because he was covering up the whole time. Manny is getting hit by big Welters.. So he's getting marked up. What's your point? Manny has lost about 3 rounds in his last five fights..

Maybe Manny didn't really hurt Clottey.. but that doesn't change the fact that he hid in his shell practically the whole fight in fear of being (T)KO'd. He admitted it himself when he stated (before the fight) he wanted to prove roach wrong and he would not be (T)KO'd. He proved it by not letting his guard down (besides throwing a potshot or two).

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The people who actually believe Clottey threw the fight needs to start using some common sense. Why would someone whose already an underdog and whom most predicted to lose throw the fight? That makes absolutely no sense. If it was the other way around and Pacquiao pulled a Clottey (not throw punches because he's afraid of getting put to sleep) and lost, then that would be a good source of su****ion for throwing the fight.

I for one like reading these conspiracy theories, but let's at least make sure they're somewhat reasonable. Clottey throwing the fight to me is like saying Hatton threw the fight because he threw his chin face first into Pacquiao's left hand.

Yup. This isn't for the pee-wees. On top of being the inferior fighter, Clottey changed trainers for no good reason, was lax in training and the camp was a sideshow. He was literally teaching his new pads guy...how to do the pads. How in the world did anyone think he could beat a fighter of Pacquiao's caliber at this level?