We put too much emphasis on win/loss records in boxing

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I think thats wishful thinking on your part Bigsby. When you counter Packy effectively like my main man did, it cuts his workrate in half at least.

Watch both JMM fights and watch Packy get gunshy and unsure of himself when he's in there w/ someone who can counter him.

Floyd is that guy.

not to sound saucy jacky but wishful thinking is comparing the pac that marquez fought to the pac that floyd is gonna fight & thinking that floyd is gonna KTFO pac who went 24 rounds vs a middleweight in clottey & a junior middleweight in cotto who he knocked out. its quite obvious that pac has improved & passed up the pac that last fought marquez.


the most conservative guess is a points decision for either guy.

[Dick Buffman]

not to sound saucy jacky but wishful thinking is comparing the pac that marquez fought to the pac that floyd is gonna fight & thinking that floyd is gonna KTFO pac who went 24 rounds vs a middleweight in clottey & a junior middleweight in cotto who he knocked out. its quite obvious that pac has improved & passed up the pac that last fought marquez.


the most conservative guess is a points decision for either guy.

I think its the same Packy. Arum's just smart and keeps him away from boxers. When he's in there with a world class boxer, all that "he's so improved" **** goes out the window. He's pretty much the same fighter he was after JMM 2. I mean hell, it was only a few months later that he looked "amazing" against David Diaz.

Not really, its just that it was David Diaz. Capiche?

Floyd won't k.o him cuz' he's this great power puncher, it will be due to precision. The same way he caught Hatton flush. All it takes is one neatly placed shot and I don't care who you are, your knees will buckle.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I think its the same Packy. Arum's just smart and keeps him away from boxers. When he's in there with a world class boxer, all that "he's so improved" **** goes out the window. He's pretty much the same fighter he was after JMM 2. I mean hell, it was only a few months later that he looked "amazing" against David Diaz.

Not really, its just that it was David Diaz. Capiche?

Floyd won't k.o him cuz' he's this great power puncher, it will be due to precision. The same way he caught Hatton flush. All it takes is one neatly placed shot and I don't care who you are, your knees will buckle.

so we can throw out the hatton, cotto, clottey fight & just focus on david diaz?


ma fangu!


all my points floyd doesnt ko pac.

[Dick Buffman]

so we can throw out the hatton, cotto, clottey fight & just focus on david diaz?


ma fangu!


all my points floyd doesnt ko pac.

No. Don't throw them out. They're great case studies to prove Uncle Bob's brilliant matchmaking. I don't think you can mistake any of those guys for disciplined boxers like JMM and Floyd. And none of them throw a good right hand like JMM and Floyd do.

I won't make that bet because I think the odds of a Floyd k.o is 50% or less. Which isn't good enough to bet on. Lets just say it wouldn't surprise me.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

"You play to win the game"

--Herm Edwards





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[Spray_resistant]

"You play to win the game"

--Herm Edwards





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Funny, but a bit of an over simplification.

[Walt Liquor]

obviously.

if you have no losses, you haven't been challenging yourself enough.

[qwerty07]

Once Floyd Mayweather started getting big and propping up his undefeated record, you got *****s walking around talking about "there is no blueprint..." type of BS...

[Mrmza]

Being undefeated in boxing don't mean ****...its how you earned your win/loss record is what matters the most...IMO.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

And none of them throw a good right hand like JMM and Floyd do.

Clottey has a nice right hand...but not as accurate, and with a style handicap which prevents him landing it often enough.