We put too much emphasis on win/loss records in boxing

[Dick Buffman]

Corrales and Castillo the 2nd time were good wins for him.

I have no issue with him at the lower weights. I think he did what was asked of him there. My issue is with him post Castillo rematch.

Its a laughable resume he's compiled since then.

[Spray_resistant]

I have no issue with him at the lower weights. I think he did what was asked of him there. My issue is with him post Castillo rematch.

Its a laughable resume he's compiled since then.

Its not been the best resume above 135 to say the least for what he himself and his most loyal fans are claiming.

Taking the fight with JMM was shameful and did nothing for him while it badly hurt JMM's career though it shouldn't have seeing as he is really a small LW.

[Dick Buffman]

Its not been the best resume above 135 to say the least for what he himself and his most loyal fans are claiming.

Taking the fight with JMM was shameful and did nothing for him while it badly hurt JMM's career though it shouldn't have seeing as he is really a small LW.

I don't hold that fight against JMM at all. I know others might, but it puzzles me since everyone prefaces it like you did by admitting it was a physical mismatch.

The only silver lining I get from it is that JMM made some good well deserved money finally. And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised that when its all said and done, we might say JMM did better against him than Pac will.

I think Pac either k.o's him or gets badly outclassed and k.o'd himself at some point in that fight. Mayweather isn't what he's made out to be, but he does have the style and right hand to beat Packy.

[MurderDeathKill]

Wins by themselves don't matter, it's who a fighter is winning against. Nothing wrong with trumpeting a great won-loss record if it's achieved against top competition.

[Spray_resistant]

I don't hold that fight against JMM at all. I know others might, but it puzzles me since everyone prefaces it like you did by admitting it was a physical mismatch.

The only silver lining I get from it is that JMM made some good well deserved money finally. And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised that when its all said and done, we might say JMM did better against him than Pac will.

I think Pac either k.o's him or gets badly outclassed and k.o'd himself at some point in that fight. Mayweather isn't what he's made out to be, but he does have the style and right hand to beat Packy.

Well I surely don't see Pac banking a bunch of rounds and Jim/Larry/Steward suggesting that Floyd will need a ko to win by the 9th rd. Pac needs to inflict some damage and take the confidence of Floyd away early if he is to win.

It really would be something though if that happened for JMM, if forever ppl will debate how he won both fights which I personally think he did by 1 point in each fight against Pac.

[Pacquiao'd]

I don't hold that fight against JMM at all. I know others might, but it puzzles me since everyone prefaces it like you did by admitting it was a physical mismatch.

The only silver lining I get from it is that JMM made some good well deserved money finally. And tbh, I wouldn't be surprised that when its all said and done, we might say JMM did better against him than Pac will.

I think Pac either k.o's him or gets badly outclassed and k.o'd himself at some point in that fight. Mayweather isn't what he's made out to be, but he does have the style and right hand to beat Packy.

these statements are pretty contradictory, arent they?

[Dick Buffman]

these statements are pretty contradictory, arent they?

Not really. Cuz' JMM showed everyone that Pac isn't as great as he's advertised either.

If you can box and have a good straight right. YOu can pwn him.

If you wanna look even further back. Morales beat him that way too.

[Dick Buffman]

Well I surely don't see Pac banking a bunch of rounds and Jim/Larry/Steward suggesting that Floyd will need a ko to win by the 9th rd. Pac needs to inflict some damage and take the confidence of Floyd away early if he is to win.

It really would be something though if that happened for JMM, if forever ppl will debate how he won both fights which I personally think he did by 1 point in each fight against Pac.

My gut tells me that Pac will get embarrassed and either ktfo, or decisioned widely. Though, I detest Mayweather and hope that he gets ktfo.

But I think the combination of the style matchup and Mayweathers natural size advantage will be too much to overcome for him. I hope I'm wrong.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Well I surely don't see Pac banking a bunch of rounds and Jim/Larry/Steward suggesting that Floyd will need a ko to win by the 9th rd. Pac needs to inflict some damage and take the confidence of Floyd away early if he is to win.

It really would be something though if that happened for JMM, if forever ppl will debate how he won both fights which I personally think he did by 1 point in each fight against Pac.

Not really. Cuz' JMM showed everyone that Pac isn't as great as he's advertised either.

If you can box and have a good straight right. YOu can pwn him.

If you wanna look even further back. Morales beat him that way too.

i dont see either guy knocking each other out. if they win its by decision. its a 50-50 fight for me. i can see a pac win due to his activity, offense, & aggression couple with the fact that floyd doesnt use his legs as much as he used to & has had the growing propensity to stay in pocket & even lay on the ropes more than ever.

everybody thinks pac has to knock floyd out, when the most likely scenario for a pac win is decision based on pac outworking floyd due to floyd who is can get too defensive & has been conservative on offense/ punch out put.

points scenario for either guy.

[Dick Buffman]

i dont see either guy knocking each other out. if they win its by decision. its a 50-50 fight for me. i can see a pac win due to his activity, offense, & aggression couple with the fact that floyd doesnt use his legs as much as he used to & has had the growing propensity to stay in pocket & even lay on the ropes more than ever.

everybody thinks pac has to knock floyd out, when the most likely scenario for a pac win is decision based on pac outworking floyd due to floyd who is can get too defensive & has been conservative on offense/ punch out put.

points scenario for either guy.

I think thats wishful thinking on your part Bigsby. When you counter Packy effectively like my main man did, it cuts his workrate in half at least.

Watch both JMM fights and watch Packy get gunshy and unsure of himself when he's in there w/ someone who can counter him.

Floyd is that guy.