Will floyd back out or be a man and stand up?

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"mayweather is the easyest fight of the 3 (cotto, mosleyoscar) hes fragile"

lol funny how you didnt mention that *****

Stay on point Treason..... the statement was Mosley was a once upon a time, 40 yr old fighter.....

answer the question.... as a PAC fan... or a Mayweather fan... or a boxing fan

is he or isnt he?

Freddie Roach wouldnt allow Pac to fight him.... why?

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Stay on point Treason..... the statement was Mosley was a once upon a time, 40 yr old fighter.....

answer the question.... as a PAC fan... or a Mayweather fan... or a boxing fan

is he or isnt he?

at the time when that video was made was shane comming off a 1yr layoff , did shane overtrain for a fight with that duck berto , answer those questions truthfully as a boxing fan

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at the time when that video was made was shane comming off a 1yr layoff , did shane overtrain for a fight with that duck berto , answer those questions truthfully as a boxing fan

Why would Freddie duck a fighter that was past his prime coming off a 1yr layoff?

Was Mosley shot when he fought Floyd yes or no?

How many point you want to bet you dont give me an answer?

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Why would Freddie duck a fighter that was past his prime coming off a 1yr layoff?

Was Mosley shot when he fought Floyd yes or no?

How many point you want to bet you dont give me an answer?

of course he was he hadnt fighted in a whole yr . you cant possibly expecta man to have quick reflexes after such a long layoff . just not possible . did you ever hare of ring rust . and after those two punches he was gassed out . brother nasim who is a awful trainer made sugar over train and it definatley showed

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of course he was he hadnt fighted in a whole yr . you cant possibly expecta man to have quick reflexes after such a long layoff . just not possible . did you ever hare of ring rust . and after those two punches he was gassed out . brother nasim who is a awful trainer made sugar over train and it definatley showed

Have I ever said one bad word about Pac... (if you look at all my posts you will find none... I give credit where credit is due.... Pac deserves respect...)

Trust me I am trying to understand your logic.....

So Roach passed on fighting a shot fighter? a figher with ring rust? a shot fighter with ring rust who overtrained?

Believe me I understand ring rust and over-training..... no way you or I or anyone else can know but neither Shane nor Richardson used that as an excuse after the fight... so I think that is simply speculation.

But you bring up an interesting point..... If ring rust is such a determinining factor in a fighter being effective.... why after almost 21 mos off did Mayweather not have issues with timing or endurance in his fight with Marquez? (the guy that gave PAC all he could handle in both their fights.....and forget the argument that he was the bigger fighter because size doesn't negate ring rust)

My point is the excuses keep piling up... yeah mayweather should just sign the contract and stop making excuses... but fight fans should also stop making excuses as to why each and every floyd win was because of some deficency in the other figher (mosley was shot, marquez was too small, hatton was no good, ODL was too old, Baldomir was a joke, Judah was a headcase, ect... on and on and on )

I accept Floyds shortcomings (not a nice guy, hate his negotiating style, defensive fighting style which is not exciting to watch at times....) but he deserves more credit that Pac fans give him..

And if he signs and wins.... what will the excuse be then?

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The best win of his career? Don't you think most people will say manny was too small? It's about challenges. If manny doesn't win people will want the next guy in. Don't hate!

That's how poor Floyd's resume is. His best challenger for his career will be a legendary featherweight.

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His team have agreed the terms including testing which means everything he wanted has been given a thumbs up by manny, its clear to everyone manny wants the fight but what about floyd?

you know nothing of the negotiations only what Bob wants you to hear

period

so what makes you believe that the offer presented is a legit 100% agreed upon deal? Because Bob says so?

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Come on Hal.... where are you? Your posting all over the place and yet you are choosing not to respond to my question.... You question Floyd Fan logic and yet your so so so silent about supporting your post about Mosley being an old... once upon a time fighter... here is my original response to your post: Then why did Freddie Roach say to Shane when he came to the Wild Card Gym that Pac wouldn't fight Shane at 147... because there wasnt enough money and shane was too good? (see quotes 7minutes into video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWNO...eature=related Im all for you pulling for your guy but you cant have it both ways...... On record...Freddie passed on Mosely as a Pac opponent because he was too much for Pac at 147...(by the way Mayweather did just fine financially fighting Mosley) So who is right you or Freddie Roach? Seems to me that Freddie knows a little more aboutboxing than all of us combined!

roach says a lot of stuff and floyd fans pick and choose which ones to believe. You cant have it both ways to.

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roach says a lot of stuff and floyd fans pick and choose which ones to believe. You cant have it both ways to.

Agreed, Freddie says alot of stuff...

That is why I specifically brought up more than just a simple comment...... Roach made a conscious decision to pass on Pac fighting Mosley?

PAC fans are going on record saying Mayweathers victory over Mosley was because Mosley was too old and not a legitimate threat?

Do you agree?

Enough of the weak arguments....... Pacfans..... give credit where credit is due!

Pac has to tools to beat Floyd... weather he brings them to the ring the night they fight for weather Floyd takes them away in the ring is what we are waiting to see.

I would love to hear from one pac fan that is willing to state they think Floyd could beat the Pac Man..... but I wont hold my breath.

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Then why did Freddie Roach say to Shane when he came to the Wild Card Gym that Pac wouldn't fight Shane at 147... because there wasnt enough money and shane was too good? (see quotes 7minutes into video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWNOyrHKKo&feature=related

Im all for you pulling for your guy but you cant have it both ways......

On record...Freddie passed on Mosely as a Pac opponent because he was too much for Pac at 147...(by the way Mayweather did just fine financially fighting Mosley)

So who is right you or Freddie Roach?

Seems to me that Freddie knows a little more about boxing than all of us combined!

Imagine, Roach is trying to find someone to fight Manny at WW for only the second time at that weight. Roach is probably still not even sure if Manny is made for WW at this point even though he won against DelaHoya. So Roach thought that Cotto was the better match than Mosley. Also, while you stated it, you kind of brushed it off when you made your conclusion ..... you need to take all of Roach's statement not only the part you like. Roach thought the Cotto fight would bring in more money.

By the way, this is a Cotto that beat Mosley.

Mosley had just beaten up Margo when Mosley wanted the fight with Manny.

Roach didn't know that Mosley's next fight would be a rusty 1.5 years later and that would mean that Mosley would be just months away from his 39th BDay. Also, one may speculate that Mosley overtrained (came off Berto training camp) plus he was certainly not on PEDs against Floyd. Something that Roach would not have asked for.