Will floyd back out or be a man and stand up?

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  • ADP02
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    #121
    Originally posted by tacoboxer
    Forget what Floyd says...... he talks more **** than a plumber... We are the ones having the discussion....Focus on what I am saying....
    Did you ever hear me say Floyd is the greatest?
    Since when did hear me making that argument?

    (I wont even repeat how many times I've heard Pac fans initiate the "All Time Great" discussion...... 7 titles this, fighter of the year that, fighter of the decade, and on and on and on)

    Your point is that Floyd should fight riskier fights..... giving Floyd a hard time for not fighting Marg for a lame WBO strap when he could add a much more valuable lineal strap (again which lineal strap should Pac give up..... I think its unreasonable to ask him to do so....... and yet you so blatantly disregard Floyd wanting to acquire one....... )

    Why haven't you admitted that Floyd dominated a guy that Pac and Roach admitted was too risky because the decided to fight the less risky of the two? I mean all the evidence is there but you cant bring yourself to admit it... You want to focus on Floyd taking more risk..... but you don't want to admit that both take less risk and maximize return..

    Why is asking you to do that too much?

    Fighting Margo was just an example. Risk = bigger reward .... my point.

    I already stated what I had to state about Mosley. I like Mosley but you want me to forget about what Floyd says but you want to talk about what Roach said. Even then, I did explain in my prior posts.

    We both know that Mosley was not close to prime and his prior fight with Margo was 1.35 years (am I closer?) before the Floyd fight AND was a closer fit for Mosley, style wise.

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    • tacoboxer
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      #122
      Originally posted by ADP02
      Baldomir had one good year but it was due to fighting a lacklustre Zab and a ready to retire Gatti ......

      Beating up a Baldomir does NOTHING for your resume. Beating up Margo would have. Beating up Cotto would have. Beating up a primer Mosley would have. Beating up a Williams .... Beating a Manny .....

      So who you fight is so so important. You need to take all the opportunities that you can get to show that you are the greatest. Again, a title is great but there are a lot of people who had titles but got less respect due to who they faced.
      This discussion is going nowhere

      Pac would have no FOY, or FOD (legacy awards) if he just had challenging risky fights. He received these awards because of titles (gatti, corralles, castillo made careers fighting risky fights... all fan favorites but will never be considered all time greats).

      Titles mean more than who you fight otherwise Leon Spinks, Buster Douglas, Rachman, Turpin would have a greater legacies for their tremendous upsets.

      You didn't answer the question.... since titles mean so little.. ask manny which lineal title would pac give up.... since you are insistent that Floyd give up his.

      Which title has more historical value a lineal title or alphabet title?

      You must believe its the alphabet title..... if you would like I can start a thread in this forum and throw it out as a poll question and you know what you and I will find my friend........ you already know the answer.

      You wish Mayweather would have fought Margo instead of Baldo... greater risk fight

      I wish Pac would have fought Mosley instead of Cotto... greater risk fight

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      • tacoboxer
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        #123
        Originally posted by ADP02
        you want me to forget about what Floyd says but you want to talk about what Roach said.
        Forget about floyds said about being an all time great.....

        Focus on what Roach DID.... wouldnt fight the guy that mayweather destroyed and the guy that destroyed Margo..

        You keep bringing up Margo as if Mayweather didnt settle that argument after destroying Mosley.....(you must really think Margo would have had a chance against Floyd)...

        its laughable!!!

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        • ADP02
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          #124
          Originally posted by tacoboxer
          Forget about floyds said about being an all time great.....

          Focus on what Roach DID.... wouldnt fight the guy that mayweather destroyed and the guy that destroyed Margo..

          You keep bringing up Margo as if Mayweather didnt settle that argument after destroying Mosley.....(you must really think Margo would have had a chance against Floyd)...

          its laughable!!!

          I'm beginning to think you really do not understand.

          Manny fought Cotto who beat Mosley BUT it's not the point!!!!
          Whether Margo can beat Floyd is NOT the point!!!. It's that Floyd took the easier of the 2 fights. As I stated before, less risk, less reward. Yes, Floyd got his title, but as a boxing fan, I would be way more impressed with Floyd if he took the riskier fight but that is just me. You don't have to agree BUT that what makes you and me different.

          I wished Floyd fought a primer Mosley, a primer Oscar. I wished Floyd fought Cotto instead of retiring. I wished he took on a Williams or a Martinez. I hope he fights Manny.

          If Floyd can or can't beat them is besides the point. Floyd doesn't even have to fight everyone I mentioned.

          You stated, why do you put those standards on Floyd. Even though it's great to have title, I told you it's not just about the titles. The way you are talking, if Floyd beat out just Baldomirs throughout his career to get titles, you feel it would be enough. I do not!!!

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          • empiricix
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            #125
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            Sorry dude but beating Pac is just not that big a deal! If floyd wins everyone will ask him to fight williams, martinez or cotto.The fight will be huge but when floyd wiins it will be same as it always is on to the next one!

            Of all of Floyd's previous opponents, no one had been as awesome as Pac in their last fights. Everyone, including *******s, will give Floyd props if he emerges victorious. So, quit with the excuses and sign already!

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            • Philrick
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              #126
              retarted

              all dis people are just ******ed! if floyd beats manny, den we would tink dat dis guy is for real great fighter!! u cant be da best if u try to duck everybody!! wat idiots!! open ur eyes maywether fan!!!i would be his fan if he stops being a ***!!! hes da greatest alryt, hes da greatest ducker!!!

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              • Rolaz
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                #127
                He isn't that MAN ENOUGH...recent news shows Floyd jr visiting a BOYS Camp! Hey thats BOYS not MEN!

                Man enough? Then how come he agreed to be called "PRETTY BOY"?
                BOY isn't equal to MAN!; and word PRETTY is usually used to describe a woman!!!

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                • dibzvincent143
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                  #128
                  he will, imo.

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                  • slayer741
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                    #129
                    he'll probably back out like a b*tch

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                    • lfc19titles
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                      #130
                      his fans already making a tax excuse to not fight in 2010

                      jesus they have no self respect with the excuses they come out with

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