Objectivity: My take on Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather!

[JBell11]

But if you are not connecting your offense isn't good? 246 / 1231 is like 20%. If 1 of every 5 punches lands that inefficient offense.

You hit it right on the head! (Pun intended)

Personally I think there is a good offense and a bad offense. I believe it varies too from fight to fight. A "good" offense would only suggest a higher percentage of punches connecting. In my mind that is what a good offense suggests. So if one REALLY wants to examine a good offense look at the punches thrown and look at the punches landed. I do believe that Pac has good volume, therefore the chance of landing punches is higher but it diminshes your % landed if you are throwing 1000 punches.

Whereas a boxer who throws three punches and lands all three THAT is effective, efficient/economical and its just impressive. It's a good offense (statistically). This is why Compubox is an important tool when determining whom is more effective in a match up.

Unfortunately, this is a subjective sport where three judges determine the outcome of a match. One judge can be looking at volume, the other judge at punches landed, and the final judge at a women in the front row! lol

[Frank Ducketts]

But if you are not connecting your offense isn't good? 246 / 1231 is like 20%. If 1 of every 5 punches lands that inefficient offense.

Not against Clottey...

[Jack Napier]

Objectivity: My take on Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather

I want Pac getting 90-10 purse split
I want Pac to be on PEDs
I want Capatello and Panama Lewis in his corner
I want 10 ft ring size
I want Reyes gloves
and I want Smoger as the ref

[Frank Ducketts]

All fights aren't picture perfect offense and defense. There are guys out there going into a fight knowing they are out gunned, and doing anything they can to upset the applecart-holding and hitting, moving, being defensive, throwing a bunch of punches etc etc. Margarito sturggled with Clottey big time, and he got lumped up. Pac got lumped up by Clottey a bit, but he clearly won where Margarito didn't clearly win.

Styles make fights. I don't expect PAc to land a bunch of punches on Floyd. Can it happen, yes. I didn't expect Duran to land a lot of punches on Sugar Lenard either. We just don't know what will happen in super fights like this. All I can do is root for Floyd, and promote Floyd as the possible winner up until the fight lol...

[Frank Ducketts]

You hit it right on the head! (Pun intended)

Personally I think there is a good offense and a bad offense. I believe it varies too from fight to fight. A "good" offense would only suggest a higher percentage of punches connecting. In my mind that is what a good offense suggests. So if one REALLY wants to examine a good offense look at the punches thrown and look at the punches landed. I do believe that Pac has good volume, therefore the chance of landing punches is higher but it diminshes your % landed if you are throwing 1000 punches.

Whereas a boxer who throws three punches and lands all three THAT is effective, efficient/economical and its just impressive. It's a good offense (statistically). This is why Compubox is an important tool when determining whom is more effective in a match up.

Unfortunately, this is a subjective sport where three judges determine the outcome of a match. One judge can be looking at volume, the other judge at punches landed, and the final judge at a women in the front row! lol

All fighters go in against Clottey knowing they aren't going to land 30 out of 40 shots. All you can do is try to find openings, land on the arms, elbows...wherever you can land, and get that fight out of the way, and go to the next fight. PAc did that with a low connect percentage. It wasn't like Pac was missing. Pac was landing, he just wasn't landing visibly on the head or jaw with multiple shots-but Pac was landing some of those shots and some good body shots.

[Frank Ducketts]

i disagree..i love seeing pac throw a bunch of punches and all that but i think the way mayweather mixes his offence and defence is genius.so yeah pac offence is more fan friendly but am going with floyd on this one.
hope the fight is made regardless.
peace

That ******* doesn't care what you think lol... Good post.

[Vegan101]

Objectivity: Floyd is scared to lose his 0, so he fights fighter 2 division south of his division and old past prime senior citizen.

[Frank Ducketts]

Objectivity: Floyd is scared to lose his 0, so he fights fighter 2 division south of his division and old past prime senior citizen.

On being called scared, a bum, or coward by fans :

MARCUS RHODE: It doesn’t bother me because the simple fact is half these guys have never put the leather on, they have never been hit, never been nothing. It doesn’t bother me because all they can do is run their mouth because if they could get in the ring they would have gotten in there...

[JBell11]

All fighters go in against Clottey knowing they aren't going to land 30 out of 40 shots. All you can do is try to find openings, land on the arms, elbows...wherever you can land, and get that fight out of the way, and go to the next fight. PAc did that with a low connect percentage. It wasn't like Pac was missing. Pac was landing, he just wasn't landing visibly on the head or jaw with multiple shots-but Pac was landing some of those shots and some good body shots.

What up Frank,

I understand your perspective, but it's all relative. So, Pac couldn't land a high percentage of shots. He still clearly won because of sheer volume. Clottey simlpy didn't throw enough punches either. The game plan was to swarm Clottey and beat him to the punch, which he succeeded. % connect can be usefule in determing how effective your offense can be. Volume would be another driver of effective offense. I missspoke when I said that a good offense is ONLY determined by % landed, but it is important to understand that if I hit you with three punches and landed all three...it's still impressive (Mayweather, Clottey) Consider this, statiscally Clottey % connect was generally greater than Pac!!!
Analysis

This fight could potentially been different. Notice the amount of damage Pac took after the fight as opose to Clottey.

Later

[The Big Dunn]

What up Frank,

I understand your perspective, but it's all relative. So, Pac couldn't land a high percentage of shots. He still clearly won because of sheer volume. Clottey simlpy didn't throw enough punches either. The game plan was to swarm Clottey and beat him to the punch, which he succeeded. % connect can be usefule in determing how effective your offense can be. Volume would be another driver of effective offense. I missspoke when I said that a good offense is ONLY determined by % landed, but it is important to understand that if I hit you with three punches and landed all three...it's still impressive (Mayweather, Clottey) Consider this, statiscally Clottey % connect was generally greater than Pac!!!
Analysis

This fight could potentially been different. Notice the amount of damage Pac took after the fight as opose to Clottey.

Later

Exactly. Harold letterman always says "effective aggression". Its hard to tell if manny's aggression caused clottey to cover up or he just went in for a payday and didn't throw.