Objectivity: My take on Manny Pacquiao versus Floyd Mayweather!

[Jermaine83]

better , period!......

i disagree..i love seeing pac throw a bunch of punches and all that but i think the way mayweather mixes his offence and defence is genius.so yeah pac offence is more fan friendly but am going with floyd on this one.
hope the fight is made regardless.
peace

[The Big Dunn]

With all due respect I don't understand what people really mean when they say "take risks". The sport is about hitting and not getting hit. Pac "goes for the ko" whe he fights guys that are not that elusive. When he fights an elusive boxer, ie JMM he he does what he can to win the fight rather than put himself in a position to be continually counterpunched.

It seems some people think floyd has never been hit hard. Because he doesn't take much punishment he is better able to withstand hard shots. I think he deserves credit for that. I think he takes Pac's punch the same way he's taken Shane's or ODH's.

One thing to keep in mind, Clottey didn't move (or throw any punches) and Cotto came in at 145. Fighting floyd would be manny's 1st fight against a full 147 lb ww "boxer" with movement. And don't underestimate floyd's power and the damage any fighter takes from the accumulation of fast accurate punches.

[RubenSonny]

I wouldn't necessarily make it that simple. Floyd is a great offensive fighter himself, mind you. He might not knock people out because he doesn't commit to all of his punches, but he can bust you up in there.

He doesn't throw as many punches as he used to, but he picks his spots well and throws from angles that you aren't expecting.

Pacquiao's offense is different. His offense is about establishing his rhythm and hitting a target. If he begins to miss, his rhythm is broken and it becomes hard for him to re-establish.

But Pacquiao can turn a fight with one punch. Even if he doesn't knock you down, he can rattle your composure.

I wouldn't say either is better or worse at offense. I'd say they're different.

great post bro, i think people tend to say it outright that mannys offense is better because its clearcut where as floyds is hard for some to completely appreciate because its merged into his defense.

[Pacquiao'd]

floyd has no combination punching, no power, no killer instinct which pac has and is top notch!

ask shane if floyd has no power, bet he would disagree with you or else floyd wouldnt have put him on ***** street

[The Big Dunn]

Is good offense just throwing a lot of punches? Or do they have to connect? Manny threw like 11-1200 punches vs clottey but the connect % was less than 30% I believe.
Is that good offense?

[Pacquiao'd]

watch floyd vs. jmm. if he threw a lot of combinations there, & go for the kill, he could have ko'd jmm.

pac takes risk, floyd doesn't!!

yep, but one thing. floyd takes risk. they are just calculated. if its not going to be worth the risk, then he wont take it and will not over commit

but i cant wait to see the excuses of those who claim floyd doesnt have the power to let alone, precision to put pac away.

theres going to be some sad people between the 9th-11th rd

[Frank Ducketts]

With all due respect I don't understand what people really mean when they say "take risks". The sport is about hitting and not getting hit. Pac "goes for the ko" whe he fights guys that are not that elusive. When he fights an elusive boxer, ie JMM he he does what he can to win the fight rather than put himself in a position to be continually counterpunched.

It seems some people think floyd has never been hit hard. Because he doesn't take much punishment he is better able to withstand hard shots. I think he deserves credit for that. I think he takes Pac's punch the same way he's taken Shane's or ODH's.

One thing to keep in mind, Clottey didn't move (or throw any punches) and Cotto came in at 145. Fighting floyd would be manny's 1st fight against a full 147 lb ww "boxer" with movement. And don't underestimate floyd's power and the damage any fighter takes from the accumulation of fast accurate punches.

Yeah, you saw who the *******s were in this thread. We only had 1 lol...Baracuda. Fighters take risks. Someone said Floyd didn't try to ko JMM. Nobody has ko'd JMM, and why waste his bad hands on a stoppage that might not happen. Pac went for the ko/tko against JMM, and found out JMM has the heart of a lion, and some fighters just won't take that 10 count.

The minute you step in the ring with a Shane, a Chico, a Morales, a Cotto, a Clottey, a Dlh...hell even a Judah...you are at risk. You don't use the word 'risk' to describe an undefeated, great fighter like Floyd or Pac not going for the ko, and you can't be talking about risks during a fight either. Both fighters attack when provoked.

[Frank Ducketts]

Is good offense just throwing a lot of punches? Or do they have to connect? Manny threw like 11-1200 punches vs clottey but the connect % was less than 30% I believe.
Is that good offense?

Yes it is imo here's why. It keeps a fighter on the defensive. The connect percentage might be low, but we all know that PAc can connect on you. It's just that Clottey is a great defensive fighter.

[goldenglove2]

imo pac has more 'fan friendly' offense, not better.

just watch the Hatton fights...

[The Big Dunn]

Yes it is imo here's why. It keeps a fighter on the defensive. The connect percentage might be low, but we all know that PAc can connect on you. It's just that Clottey is a great defensive fighter.

But if you are not connecting your offense isn't good? 246 / 1231 is like 20%. If 1 of every 5 punches lands that inefficient offense.