Rocky Marciano>>>>Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[gqjohnb]

lol, I just hope they don't make any trades like those that are being talked about right now. Drew for Bosh.

Even with injuries, Bynum makes his presence known. I don't see that in Bosh. At this point, all thats needed is a good defensive point. A true point guard isn't necessary in the triangle, just a serviceable one.

BJ Armstrong
Ron Harper
Derek Fisher

All champions within the triangle. Of course, the majority of credit goes to the stars of their teams, but they played their roles well.

Yeah I think the solidarity of keeping bynum would help next year too with all the trades being made across the league but Bynum needs to have a better year injury wise for them to get it done too. **** Kobe and Gasol need to have a better year as well. They were fortunate to have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. The fact that they still won the west with Gasol and Bynum sitting out 10+ games and Kobe playing injured all through just shows how impressive the Lakers organization is. Consummate professionals from the players to the training and medical staff.

[gqjohnb]

lol, I just hope they don't make any trades like those that are being talked about right now. Drew for Bosh.

Even with injuries, Bynum makes his presence known. I don't see that in Bosh. At this point, all thats needed is a good defensive point. A true point guard isn't necessary in the triangle, just a serviceable one.

BJ Armstrong
Ron Harper
Derek Fisher

All champions within the triangle. Of course, the majority of credit goes to the stars of their teams, but they played their roles well.

And as far as the Point guard position I agree completely.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yeah I think the solidarity of keeping bynum would help next year too with all the trades being made across the league but Bynum needs to have a better year injury wise for them to get it done too. **** Kobe and Gasol need to have a better year as well. They were fortunate to have home court advantage throughout the playoffs. The fact that they still won the west with Gasol and Bynum sitting out 10+ games and Kobe playing injured all through just shows how impressive the Lakers organization is. Consummate professionals from the players to the training and medical staff.

No ****ing doubt.

They know the regular season is important, but its not what defines a champion.

This season was honestly the most boring I have ever watched. I was telling my homie the other day that it was more exciting watching the regular season when the Lakers had Kwame and Smush because you had no idea if they were going to win.

This season was just one long drag out until the playoffs.

[Haterfree]

Last I checked, Kobes not retired and gets compared to Mike every single day by haters and lovers alike.

Thats your opinon. The only people I know still talking about Michael Jordan & comparing him to Kobe are the haters. However in a lot of ways Kobe & Floyd are alike. 2 Champion Black athletes on the top of their game with haters everywhere.

[Haterfree]

No ****ing doubt.

They know the regular season is important, but its not what defines a champion.

This season was honestly the most boring I have ever watched. I was telling my homie the other day that it was more exciting watching the regular season when the Lakers had Kwame and Smush because you had no idea if they were going to win.

This season was just one long drag out until the playoffs.

If you were more excited about watching the Lakers when we had Kwame & Smush I seriously doubt you are a serious Laker fan. Stop hating on Floyd Mayweather 1 moment & appreciate the PAYBACK-TO-BACK titles the Lakers just put down.

[Vasyl’s dad]

If you were more excited about watching the Lakers when we had Kwame & Smush I seriously doubt you are a serious Laker fan. Stop hating on Floyd Mayweather 1 moment & appreciate the PAYBACK-TO-BACK titles the Lakers just put down.

If you'll notice, I said the season itself was boring because of the lack of drama most nights. The outcome was just a formality. In the days of Smush and Kwame, it was entirely unknown as to whether the team would win.

lol @ questioning my fandom because I found this particular regular season boring.

If I wasn't a serious Laker fan, why do I have the Laker banner in my sig?

Btw, if you don't like my threads,

you can always take your black ass out.

[badass316]

If you'll notice, I said the season itself was boring because of the lack of drama most nights. The outcome was just a formality. In the days of Smush and Kwame, it was entirely unknown as to whether the team would win.

lol @ questioning my fandom because I found this particular regular season boring.

If I wasn't a serious Laker fan, why do I have the Laker banner in my sig?

Btw, if you don't like my threads,

you can always take your black ass out.

LMAO at the last line.

I think this is the second paradox-like thread I've seen you make (Floyd being on PEDs being the first) and I've gotta say both times you've had the PBF nuthuggers on ***** street LOL

[JAB5239]

Im a big Marciano fan and no fan of Floyd at all, but at this point it's pretty close. I'd give Floyd a slight advantage, but a win over Pac would solidify it for me.

Seems like a lot of people want to hate on Floyd (and for some very good reasons), but lets be realistic. Hate Floyd all you want (I do) but give him the resoect he deserves as a great fighter.

[edgarg]

Floyd stan logic.

Basing your opinion off of whats merely on the surface without digging any deeper, the reason why so many spout that "numbers" line I threw at you.

Example, you dug deep into the career of RM without just glossing over the record and taking it at face value.

You must be kidding. I have by far the most experience of any poster on this site. I don't mean that I KNOW more, but, I doubt that I know much less. I was around during the whole Marciano career days, and saw many of his fights as they happened. My recollection of the Moore fight has been supported by the accounts of many boxing writers, whom you can look up-if you care to.

I was boxing then and a very keen enthusiast. So, PLEASE don't make unwarranted assumptions.

As far as Marciano is concerned, the Boxrec record paints a good picture of his career, but, you have to do what I did. That was to look at all the opponents, AT THEIR records, and often the records of the opponents opponents. I recall many of those fights, I also have Ring, and other boxing magazines of those days and I can tell you that Marciano did not have the hordes of ignorant admirers as we have today. The conditions of some of his opponents was pitiful, reminiscent of those bed cases of Sam Peter, who had to be helped along the aisle, half carried into the ring, and propped up at a cornerpost until the bell rang, so that he could rush over hit them on the backs of their necks and proudly claim another "KO."

I have an interview of Marciano by Nat Loubet, in which Marciano solidly declared that he was still learning, and intented to fight on for several more years (something like Lennox Lewis's phony boasting BEFORE the Klitschko fight) Lo and behold, within a couple of weeks Floyd Patterson had another sweeping victory, and as everyone had been talking for months about his inevitable collision with Marciano, it was a surprise to all (?) when Marciano announced his retirement a very short wjhile later.

I stand by my Marciano comments, and the proof is there for you, or anyone to see.

[edgarg]

You must be kidding. I have by far the most experience of any poster on this site. I don't mean that I KNOW more, but, I doubt that I know much less. I was around during the whole Marciano career days, and saw many of his fights as they happened. My recollection of the Moore fight has been supported by the accounts of many boxing writers, whom you can look up-if you care to.

I was boxing then and a very keen enthusiast. So, PLEASE don't make unwarranted assumptions.

As far as Marciano is concerned, the Boxrec record paints a good picture of his career, but, you have to do what I did. That was to look at all the opponents, AT THEIR records, and often the records of the opponents opponents. I recall many of those fights, I also have Ring, and other boxing magazines of those days and I can tell you that Marciano did not have the hordes of ignorant admirers as we have today. The conditions of some of his opponents was pitiful, reminiscent of those bed cases of Sam Peter, who had to be helped along the aisle, half carried into the ring, and propped up at a cornerpost until the bell rang, so that he could rush over hit them on the backs of their necks and proudly claim another "KO."

I have an interview of Marciano by Nat Loubet, in which Marciano solidly declared that he was still learning, and intented to fight on for several more years (something like Lennox Lewis's phony boasting BEFORE the Klitschko fight) Lo and behold, within a couple of weeks Floyd Patterson had another sweeping victory, and as everyone had been talking for months about his inevitable collision with Marciano, it was a surprise to all (?) when Marciano announced his retirement a very short wjhile later.

I stand by my Marciano comments, and the proof is there for you, or anyone to see.

Having had another look at my post, it seems that it could be construed as being critical of yours, but in fact, since you accept my comments, it is just explanatory. I chose some very ambiguous terms and sentences. So please accept my thanks for seeing that I did indeed dig deep, and that my comments bear the stamp of truth without the "windy nothings" posted by so many others.