There is NOTHING wrong with Floyd facing Martinez at a catch weight.

[Calilloyd]

[QUOTE=2501;8725291]Cotto said the weight wasn't a problem for him so where is the issue? If Floyd fighting Hatton was ok because Hatton said the weight wasn't a problem, then why was Cotto/Pac an issue even though Cotto said it was ok?[/QUOTE]



















What did you think he was going to say after signing the contract? And comparing this to Mayweather-Hatton is comical. It really is.

[j.one]

Manny has no business asking Cotto for another catchweight under any circumstances, it's like asking a crippled guy for a lead in a foot race.

[BoxerDood]

cause he weighed in at 138 lbs against hatton?

But he weighed 142 for the De La Hoya fight and fought effectively, and that was when he moved up two weight classes, so there's no excuse. He also looked bigger than DLH that night (even though he was a zombie, come on, the guy walks around at what, 170). If you're fighting for a world championship, you should fight at the weight limit. If not then why even fight for the title? Its a WW title, not a catch weight title. The only time that would be acceptable that is if a fighter is moving up more than one weight class (for example, 147 was a very reasonable meeting place for Pacquiao-De La Hoya).

And Pac weighed in at 144 for the Cotto fight, so there's no reason why it shouldn't have been at 147. I think both "*******s" and "*****s" can agree that two lbs don't make a difference, correct?

Both Pac-Cotto II and Floyd-Martinez should be at the limit (unless Floyd-Martinez is at 160 because as I said, its fine if you're moving up two weight classes).

[NECK SNAPPER]

Little guy's can come up but dont make champions come down under there belts weight class or it should not count

[Calilloyd]

in the end having any champ be restricted and then fight for their title is wrong. it was wrong when Oscar did it to BHop, it was wrong when Manny did it to Cotto,and it would be wrong if Mayweather did it to Martinez, regardless of how comfortable anyone thinks Martinez is at making 154

Simple. Easy to understand!

I agree on all counts. If it's for the title it should be fought at the 160 limit. That goes for Mayweather or anybody else.

[shogunn]

Manny has no business asking Cotto for another catchweight under any circumstances, it's like asking a crippled guy for a lead in a foot race.

is this the right thread? you cant even criticize floyd in his own thread, but instead you go after...

[Eaner0919]

Cotto said the weight wasn't a problem for him so where is the issue? If Floyd fighting Hatton was ok because Hatton said the weight wasn't a problem, then why was Cotto/Pac an issue even though Cotto said it was ok?

couple of things

Cotto said the weight wasn't a problem but fighting for the title AT that weight was....

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content5353.html

so again I commend Cotto highly for making the fight and really think it was a **** tactic by Manny or Bob to get Cotto to first agree to the weight then make it for his title

why would Hatton say the weight was a factor when he openly said he would fight as a welterweight prior? when he announced he was making his US debut against Collazo he made no bones about possibly facing Mayweather after.

[mathed]

You got Serg huh? I think he's going to have a hard time trying to figure out how to stop Floyds lead right.

I think Floyd has a hard time dealing with the way Martinez moves when he punches, that sneaky left will land and could cut Floyd. I think this would be a great fight......I'd definitely pay to watch this one.

[mathed]

Manny has no business asking Cotto for another catchweight under any circumstances, it's like asking a crippled guy for a lead in a foot race.

I agree, if you want to fight the guy for his title at 154, then make that weight. Manny can make 147 and has proven that he can hold his own there....this catchweight stuff is getting old, why have weight divisions if people don't want to honor the limits?

[BoxerDood]

I agree on all counts. If it's for the title it should be fought at the 160 limit.T hat goes for Mayweather or anybody else.

I don't know about that. If you're moving up one weight class, then that's one thing. But if you're moving up more than one, then it should be at a catchweight otherwise you're at a huge disadvantage and its an unfair fight. I think Leonard did that before (made the fight at the SMW limit for the LHW title) when moving up from 160. I didn't see anything wrong with the Pacquiao-DLH meeting point either, since he moved up two weight classes.