What's with the Klitschko bashers anyway?

[Hitman932]

byrd has defended against oquendo, mccline and golota. all of them suck. tell me im wrong. he hasnt defended in almost 8 months now. last fight in november of 2004, and he has no fight scheduled at this point.

ruiz has defended most recently against oquendo, golota (trend here?) and toney. he has yet to challenge brewster, byrd or either klitschko and hes been on top for 5 years.

brewster has defended against golota (yes the same one that fought ruiz and byrd) and kali meehan who both suck a fat ass pecker. and he has a fight scheduled against luan krasniqi, who also sucks. this is a joke if you think klitschko doesent step up.

vitali has defended against sanders, johnson (both top 10's maybe top 5 i dont recall and dont care if they came in fat, vitali didnt make them) and williams. no matter which way you cut it he has defended against better comp than all the other champs.

the bottom line here is that vitali has scheduled tougher bouts to date and when he fights rahman and beats him it will put him in a class by himself. but if you want to talk about fighting the best fighters there is only one guy doing that right now - ANDREW GOLOTA aka "THE DON KING PUNCHING BAG"

FURTHERMORE - SMOKE ON THIS HATERS!!!
vitali fought danny williams in december of last year, which means even with his injury he has still defended his title more recently than byrd who has been off since november (meehan). and vitali has a fight scheduled and byrd doesent. at this rate an entire calendar year is going to pass without a single chris byrd title defense. why isnt anyone talking about that??

i bet none of you even reply to this so just read over it and pretend it isnt true

[Torino]

Here's a list of acceptable opponents for Vitali

Toney
Rahman
Byrd
Ruiz
Brewster

FIGHT ONE OF THEM, WUSS

he's had over a year to defend against any of them and has failed to do it

First of all, Vitali fought 12/11/04. Less than 7 months ago.

Second, I agree and would like to see him fight those guys too. However, If he fights these guys and wins like I hope he does, the haters will find a way to discredit those opponents as well.

Here, let me show you,

If Vitali fights and wins against,

Toney - Fat, old and too short. Just a blown up middle weight.

Rahman - Fat, out of shape B class fighter, who only got lucky with one punch against Lewis.

Byrd - Another blown up middle weight, old, slow and past his prime.

Ruiz - Slow paper champion who has a reputation for getting beat by middle weights.

Brewster - Fat, out of shape, B class boxer that got one lucky punch with Golota.

I'll even go further,

Brock - Not ready for a title fight.
Valuev - a freak that never fought anyone.
Peter - Not enough experience.
Barrett - B class fighter

The bottom line is the haters will never do anything but hate. It doesn't matter who Vitali fights.

One thing I'm convinced of, the reason for their hate has nothing to do with boxing and probably has everything to do with race, religion, nationality or whatever.

[Bozo_no no]

First of all, Vitali fought 12/11/04. Less than 7 months ago.

Second, I agree and would like to see him fight those guys too. However, If he fights these guys and wins like I hope he does, the haters will find a way to discredit those opponents as well.

Here, let me show you,

If Vitali fights and wins against,

Toney - Fat, old and too short. Just a blown up middle weight.

Rahman - Fat, out of shape B class fighter, who only got lucky with one punch against Lewis.

Byrd - Another blown up middle weight, old, slow and past his prime.

Ruiz - Slow paper champion who has a reputation for getting beat by middle weights.

Brewster - Fat, out of shape, B class boxer that got one lucky punch with Golota.

I'll even go further,

Brock - Not ready for a title fight.
Valuev - a freak that never fought anyone.
Peter - Not enough experience.
Barrett - B class fighter

The bottom line is the haters will never do anything but hate. It doesn't matter who Vitali fights.

One thing I'm convinced of, the reason for their hate has nothing to do with boxing and probably has everything to do with race, religion, nationality or whatever.

That post was one big IF.

The fact of the matter is, Vitali Klitschko is the most hyped fighter in boxing, and the most hyped fighter on this forum, and at this point, it is all without foundation.

He has LOST the two biggest fights of his career against the two best fighters he's ever faced.

Outside of this, his most noteworthy wins are against a grossly out of shape Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald.

This alone should contrast and underline the ridiculousness of the amount of hype that surrounds him vs what he’s actually accomplished.

To paraphrase your sulky opening assertion:


There are some boxers I do like, I post my opinion, and it's over with. I don’t make my avatar a nut hugging shine to them, convince myself of elaborate delusions about them, and then keep an open radar for any and all posts about them so that I can wander in to the threads to purposely have my feelings hurt at any and all mild criticisms.

There are about 5 or 6 of you that are undying biased delusional Klitschko fanATICS. After each and every major fight (that have nothing to do with the Klitschkos) one of you creates a “Yea well _______ doesn’t ______ as good as Klitschko”.

It’s sickening. And there are many people that are sick and tired of it.

Vitali Klitschko (in particular) is a large and awkward average heavyweight who as of yet has done NOTHING to warrant the overwhelming hype surrounding him. He is ONE OF 4 title holders at Heavyweight who has just as much left to prove as the others, yet there isn’t a Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster or John Ruiz faction with goofy avatar pics running around causing a propaganda festival.

In conclusion, the justified and ongoing criticisms of Vitali Klitschko on this site are dwarfed by the overwhelming deluded and biased hype surrounding him.

[Torino]

That post was one big IF.

The fact of the matter is, Vitali Klitschko is the most hyped fighter in boxing, and the most hyped fighter on this forum, and at this point, it is all without foundation.

He has LOST the two biggest fights of his career against the two best fighters he's ever faced.

Outside of this, his most noteworthy wins are against a grossly out of shape Kirk Johnson, Corrie Sanders, and Larry Donald.

This alone should contrast and underline the ridiculousness of the amount of hype that surrounds him vs what he’s actually accomplished.

To paraphrase your sulky opening assertion:


There are some boxers I do like, I post my opinion, and it's over with. I don’t make my avatar a nut hugging shine to them, convince myself of elaborate delusions about them, and then keep an open radar for any and all posts about them so that I can wander in to the threads to purposely have my feelings hurt at any and all mild criticisms.

There are about 5 or 6 of you that are undying biased delusional Klitschko fanATICS. After each and every major fight (that have nothing to do with the Klitschkos) one of you creates a “Yea well _______ doesn’t ______ as good as Klitschko”.

It’s sickening. And there are many people that are sick and tired of it.

Vitali Klitschko (in particular) is a large and awkward average heavyweight who as of yet has done NOTHING to warrant the overwhelming hype surrounding him. He is ONE OF 4 title holders at Heavyweight who has just as much left to prove as the others, yet there isn’t a Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster or John Ruiz faction with goofy avatar pics running around causing a propaganda festival.

In conclusion, the justified and ongoing criticisms of Vitali Klitschko on this site are dwarfed by the overwhelming deluded and biased hype surrounding him.

HAHAHAHAA! I was waiting for you, you red lined Klitschko stalking sausage sucker!

So from your post, It's the Klitschko fans you don't like, not the Klitschko's.

And in regards to my previous post, the one you said has big "if's" in it, (BTW, the if's were in response to a hypothetical situation posed by the previous poster)........ is this better? (snickering)

First of all, Vitali fought 12/11/04. Less than 7 months ago.

Second, I agree and would like to see him fight those guys too. However, WHEN he fights some of these guys, the haters will find a way to discredit those opponents as well.

Here, let me show you,

WHEN Vitali fights and wins against,

Toney - Fat, old and too short. Just a blown up middle weight.

Rahman - Fat, out of shape B class fighter, who only got lucky with one punch against Lewis.

Byrd - Another blown up middle weight, old, slow and past his prime.

Ruiz - Slow paper champion who has a reputation for getting beat by middle weights.

Brewster - Fat, out of shape, B class boxer that got one lucky punch with Golota.

I'll even go further,

Brock - Not ready for a title fight.
Valuev - a freak that never fought anyone.
Peter - Not enough experience.
Barrett - B class fighter

The bottom line is the haters will never do anything but hate. It doesn't matter who Vitali fights.

One thing I'm convinced of, the reason for their hate has nothing to do with boxing and probably has everything to do with race, religion, nationality or whatever.

How did you know I was refering to you with the whole misery thing in my original post? LOL

[Leo Pradun]

Cause everyone expected Vitali to save the heavyweight division. He's had a long time and hasn't achieved anything. His two fights were againts an out-of-shape Sanders and a C-B fighter Danny Williams who's win over Tyson was a fluke. How do you get elevated from being a club fighter to fighting for the "true" championship of the world by betting a man way out of his prime that also had an injured leg. That just killed the eligibility of Vitali's belt and put him in the same level with the other 3 belt holders.

Williams demolished MEEHAN who almost beat Brewster, Williams was not that big of a bum as u think...

[Leo Pradun]

Excellent post, Deuskie! A lot of people put a lot of credibility on Vitali just for SURVIVING against Lewis. I never bought into him. Now that he hasn't defended against one legitimate fighter, I think he's a disgrace to the throne. All past heavyweight champions should be ashamed.

Wladimir is a different story. Unlike his brother who is an underachiever, Wladimir is a NEVER-WAS. Vitali may have lost his two biggest fighters, but Wladimir was brutally KOed in both of his last big ones. I can't believe people thought this guy was gonna beat Lewis.

The Klitschkos are embarrassments to the sport, and as of now, I don't see how any of their most ardent nuthuggers can defend their actions in 2005.

um lets see Vitali is the wbc champ, Wlad is looking for a shot at Byrd who keeps running like a lil *****, so I dont know what the hell u talking about pindexo...

[Leo Pradun]

tell me now a days what is a legimate fighter lmao? james 36 year old fat middleweight roided toney? lamon whoster? hasbeen rahman? chris ducking the little borther byrd? no matter who vitali fights the haters will just bash who he fought, everyone wants him to fight toney and the rock but watch after he beats them it'll mean nothing and the hate will continue, vitali cant prove himself cause there aint nobody who will satasify the idiots

if he beats the Rock or Toney 75% of the haters will shut their face...

[guru]

i think it must be an attention thing for all the haters that continously create new threads to bash the klits... there are some fighters i really hate, but i dont come up with new threads everyday, saying the samething over and over... my best guess is they're starved for attention...

i try not to get involved, except to point out something unreasonable, like the following popular critisicms:

vk has a weak resume - his resume is about the same as everyone else... sanders/donald/KJ/williams are no weaker than fres/golota/mcline/meehan

vk is to blame for the state of division - he's only been champ a little over a year and has been injured.. the real person to blame is don king, who wont let his champs fight each other so we can have one champion.. he also gets all his guys ranked to get title shots no matter who they are and what they've done

vk's inactivity is terrible for the division - byrd is the current most inactive champ and he's not even injured.. he doesnt even have a fight scheduled... even his promoter king, thinks byrd is crazy and talks **** about him

[Derranged_]

vk's inactivity is terrible for the division[/B] - byrd is the current most inactive champ and he's not even injured.. he doesnt even have a fight scheduled... even his promoter king, thinks byrd is crazy and talks **** about him

I read the same article on how King was critizing Byrd for turning down a $2million+ fight with Wlad Klitscho. And he's(King)right, why turn down that much money against a fighter who would bolster his(Byrd) credability if he beat him(Wlad). I don't think Byrd wants to fight ever again.

[Leo Pradun]

I read the same article on how King was critizing Byrd for turning down a $2million+ fight with Wlad Klitscho. And he's(King)right, why turn down that much money against a fighter who would bolster his(Byrd) credability if he beat him(Wlad). I don't think Byrd wants to fight ever again.

I agree with u Byrd is just a stuck up lil **** talker who cant fight and the 1st good fighter he will face hell get his ass rocked..