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Originally posted by P4P305 View PostBourne VS Bond
Who R U Picking?
This fight have a much better chance of happening than the Floyd VS Manny fight.
Bourne!!! Big jason bourne fan here got all the series, Loved it.
Originally posted by shade darkar View Post
Sorry but thats irrelevant, He HAD problems negotiating with both fighters and thats a pattern right there, While we havent heard the samething yet of Mayweather, I remember before the Mayweather-Hatton fight happen back in 2007 a lot of Hatton fans were saying the fight wouldnt because Mayweather was greedy, But the fight was annouce without any problems, Same with De La Hoya.Comment
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I made mention of this last week. We're already going into July and there's gotta be some deadline to where the fight has to be signed being they have to get the promotion going. I have a feeling if nothin is decided by July, we're not gonna see a Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight.
Though names like Margarito and Cotto are being thrown out there as Plan B, I'm really intruigued to who Floyd's team would pick as their plan B. The only fights that make any sense to me is a fight with either Paul Williams, Andre Berto, or Sergio Martinez.Comment
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i get your point, those problems were about the percentage of money he would get, but surely there is that much money in this fight that both would make career highs if they were to just split it right down the middle. on the hatton mayweather - there was no problems because mayweather got 70% of the pot. so that kept him sweet, and hatton got the remaining 30% and 100% of sky PPV. so that kept hatton happy.Originally posted by Ray* View PostComment
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Don't trust his goofy public persona - Jack Black could be a superspy. Why? He's got the initials. James Bond, Jason Bourne, Jack Black. It only makes sense.
Isn't it odd that the two biggest super spies in cinema today both have the initials J.B.? It makes me want to give my son the same step-up in 'coolness' by naming him Jim Bob (wait, that might backfire). When you break down the best super agents in cinema, you can wade through all the cut-rate spies out there, but you're going to have a final round between James Bond and Jason Bourne. And don't think we're out of line by drawing the comparison. Matt Damon himself has been regularly bringing it up in interviews lately, painting Jason Bourne as the spy for the new era and James Bond as an outdated dinosaur. As Daniel Craig proved in Casino Royale, the legend of 007 is FAR from over. So, who would win the ultimate superspy throwdown? Imagine a super-fight between Bond and Bourne in a number of rounds, each with a different theme. Who comes out on top? Enter the ring...
Round One: Hand-to-hand Combat
Have you seen Jason Bourne kick ass? Sure, it helps to have Paul Greengrass shoot your fight scenes - he could make a Hilton-Lohan cat fight look like the deadliest thing you've ever seen - but Bourne knows how to take an enemy down. You literally feel it in the theater, almost as if Bourne's fights might actually be dangerous to you. Daniel Craig proved that Bond could be a physical force as much as an expert marksman, but there's a history of Bonds that we think we could take. Timothy Dalton? Bourne would need one chop move to the neck to take that punk down. Roger Moore? Don't get us started. Even Brosnan would be Bourne toast. There's a reason that all the Bonds need a cadre of weapons for every assignment. Bourne only needs two weapons and they're called left and right.
Advantage: Bourne
Round Two: Coercion
Bond has a long history of ladies who have fallen at his feet...and a few other body parts...but that long line of conquests is almost an unfair advantage, so let's just stay focused on the last three movies. Bourne gets major points for romancing Lola (Franka Potente) and he has an easy-going charm with Julia Stiles in The Bourne Ultimatum. But Bourne doesn't have time for ladies. Bond knows that the fairer sex is worth the time. Saving the world can wait if you get a chance to sleep with someone named Christmas Jones. In Casino Royale alone, Bond romanced the stunning duo of Eva Green and Caterina Murino. When you add Halle Berry, Denise Richards, and Sophie Marceau, this isn't even a competition. (Sorry, Franka.)
Advantage: Bond
Round Three: Gadgets
The two JB superspies have two very different options when it comes to gadgets. Bond takes whatever Q gives him and uses it to his greatest advantage. Bourne can't even carry a cell phone because it will allow his former captors to track him. In Ultimatum, he has to buy a phone just to get a hold of someone with information he needs. We're talking about someone who probably doesn't even carry a watch versus someone whose timepiece has a laser in it. So, what wins? Ultimate gadgets or complete freedom from them? It's a tough call. Bond can use his gadgets to save the day, but Bourne uses his complete freedom from them to evade his enemies. All or nothing?
Advantage: Draw
Round Four: Evasion
If you're sitting in crosstown traffic and one superspy is going to commandeer your vehicle, who do you want it to be? With both, it's unlikely that the car will come back in one piece, but who do you think might actually use your Saturn to evade their enemies? It's not that Bond gets caught a lot in high-speed chases, but he does get captured more regularly than Bourne. In fact, all three Bourne movies are basically about our hero evading his captors. Bond is more the type to allow himself to get caught, infiltrate the enemy, and take them down from within. Bourne can't let that happen. The government can't be taken down from within. So, he keeps running.
Advantage: Bourne
Round Five: International Awareness
In Ultimatum, Bourne travels the world in the blink of an eye. All it takes is a different subtitle (Ex. "Tangier, Morocco") and suddenly he's there. We don't know how he got there, but you get the feeling that it's more difficult that your average commute. How else could a man with no real identity travel so smoothly? Bond, on the other hand, travels out in the open. You picture James sitting in first class drinking a martini while Jason is huddled in the wheel well of the same jet. They can both get to their destination, but Bond can do it with more style. And sometimes style points count.
Advantage: Bond
Round Six: Independence
Does a great superspy operate entirely on his own or does he kick ass in the name of the Queen? It depends on your taste. Bourne doesn't need anyone to help him complete his mission, while Bond has historically needed about half a dozen people from M to Q to Z (we made that last one up) to finish his adventure. Should the great hero be a loner or someone who knows there's no I in team? We'll take the loner. They're usually more reliably deadly. They've got no one to come home to.
Advantage: Bourne
Round Seven: License to Kill
Much of the conversation around the Bourne vs. Bond debate has been sparked by Damon's criticism of Bond being a ruthless killer. Damon told the AP that Bond is "an imperialist and he's a misogynist. He kills people and laughs and sips martinis and wisecracks about it." That's a little harsh, especially in light of the emotional depth that Craig brought the role in Casino Royale. But it raises an interesting point. Do you want your superspy to be a ruthless, wisecracking killer or the kind of guy who loses sleep at night after a completed mission? Bourne is the kind of spy who will cripple his enemy, so the cops can take him in, where Bond's missions force him to choose the ultimate option. In the new millennium, do we want a superspy with the license to kill or do we want a kinder, gentler JB? It's a scary world, Jason. In a spy vs. spy battle, we need someone who can get the job done. Permanently.
Advantage: Bond
Final Score: Bond: 3, Bourne: 3, Draw: 1
Of course, it's a tie. When it comes right down to it, Jason Bourne and James Bond fulfill very different needs in the world of superspy-dom. If you want someone to seduce the ladies, travel in style, and callously pull the trigger on the bad guy, you go with 007. If you want someone to slide under the radar, use his hands as deadly weapons, and consistently evade the enemy, you hire Bourne. If the two of them could work together, they'd be unstoppable. Throw Jack Black into the mix and they'd take over the world.
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/article/?id=17598
Bob Arum will promote it. The the fight will take place in November 13th at the MGM Grand Las Vegas Hotel.Comment
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Yea fair enough.Originally posted by check hook View Post
But has anybody fought Floyd within Haymon?
And moving forward if Floyd doesn't land Pacquiao, I think Floyd's business acumen need to change, coz no one out there can bring in the figures other than him and Pac.
If you look beyond, no one out there is within PPV and revenue material, and FLoyd's not getting any younger.Comment
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Pac is in trouble if this fight doesn't go through. Same with Floyd. Whatever. At this point, I'm caring a lot less.Comment
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Man, man , man, you really don't want this fight to happen do you?Originally posted by M.I.C. View Post
60/40 split? Pac is going to laugh in their faces and fight Margs and take 75% of the money if not more and Mayweather will be left talking smack about how Pac is scared while Pac is stuffing his pockets with cash.
They are never going to agree to that kind of split and May knows it. I think Top Rank wanted the 50/50 split and nothing more. Everybody knows that without a dance partner, Mayweather is not going to draw jack and when he does have one, he barely does more than Pac when he fights.
Most fans know the deal with May Sr. and Ellerbe not wanting Floyd to fight Pac...............he must be on something because he is too good for MayweatherComment
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