Is Floyd the best boxer of all time?

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  • jrosales13
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    #121
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    All opinions:

    Even me saying Floyd is the most skilled fighter ever and the best defensive fighter.

    Its my opinion. You have yours and I have mine. All the name calling is uncalled for. You want to make a case for somebody else feel free. Floyd is the most skilled fightrer ever. Hes also the most skilled defesnsive fighter ever. IN MY OPINION.

    Because you say its Sweet Pea makes it gospel?? Since when?
    Of course not, I always said the top 3 are Pep, Locche, and Whitaker. And, I don't mind any order. They just proved it with elite level fighters. Is not Floyd fault that he didn't have the elite level fighters that they other 3 did. But, it is what it is they had it he didn't. They proved it with much tougher opposition.

    The only reason why I have Whitaker ahead is cuz he was in my lifetime. Is the only reason why I put him #1. But, if somebody comes on and says no Locche is the greatest ever or Pep is the greatest ever. I would not argue them at all. Because, I know what those fighters accomplished, what they did with their careers.

    But, that is difference where I can see other fighters being better. You on the other hand make it seem that Floyd is alone and that your word is gospel. That is how your posts come out as. That is what I get out of it.

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      #122
      Originally posted by dde91
      1st off if Floyd had a loss we wouldn't be having this conversation IMO

      Second off there is video evidence of Floyd saying cotto "LIVES TO FAR" and a video of Margarito punking him to fight him and Floyd not wanting none.

      3rd. Mosley wanted Floyd been wanting each other for years. But now that Mosley was inactive and older. Now Floyd gets in the ring with him right?

      4th off Floyd in a recent video said he is going to retire again for a couple years. Is that ducking Pacquiao or not????

      5th. If you consider De La Hoya vs Mayweather an ass whooping then i was watching something else. De La Hoya vs Pacquiao is an ass whoopin.

      6th. If he is the most Skilled fighter in your opinion, dont you think he will beat anybody???? Since to YOU he is the most Complete boxer off all time with the total package
      1- Styles makes fights. Just because you are the most skilled doesnt mean one lucky punch wont change your night. Jones-Tarver.


      2- There is ALSO video of Floyd saying hed love to fight Miguel Cotto.

      3- Um when else was he suppose to do it? He was the Number 1 WW and P4P Number 3 when he fought him. Also a guy that Pac wanted no parts of.

      4- Is Floyd retired. Yes or No man.

      5- When did I call ODH-Floyd an ass whooping. Pac whooped Oscars ass but he was a shell of himself and had no business at 147. But that goes un mentioned by you.

      6- See Number 1.

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        #123
        Originally posted by Sgt Rock
        Floyd was the one who said he is the greatest of all time. Take it up with him not me.
        So what? Move on already. He made that statement you disagree with it fine. No need to make a another one of this damn threads where they have been a million of them. you should of just bump one of the old ones and gave your opinion there.

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          #124
          Aside from, Hopkins, Dawson, Calderon, ect, Floyd is the most skilled Boxer of this era.

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            #125
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Honestly bro to much nuthugging in your part to be logical.

            Floyd is not the most skilled fighter of all time. Where do you start to even make such a list or even such a claim?

            Floyd is not the best defensive fighter of all time neither.

            When comparing skills you have to compare styles as well. Floyd could not have fought like Henry Armstong and be as successful as Armstrong. In the same token Armstrong could not have fought like Floyd and be as successful as Floyd.

            You letting his style cloud your judgment of what skill is. Duran, Armstrong, SRR, Whitaker, are just as skilled as Floyd. Every single one of them had a different style that they perfected it. You can say he is one of the best but to say he is the best? How can you come up with such a claim? It is just ridiculous to say one fighter is the most skilled ever since styles have to be in place, eras, level of comp, all that... Too hard to say.

            But, you're so adamant that he is that it makes you a delusional nuthugger. But, that is just my opinion and personally my opinion is just as good as the next man. But, with you is not like if you trying to give your opinion but trying to make it as a fact. And, that is just not the case.
            EXACTLY. Every great fighter is Skilled and they perfected there skill to the fullest. Floyds is defense. You ever see Duran on the jump ropes?? man that guy was naturally skilled in everything he did training and in the ring.

            In my Opinion you have to have skills to win. And just because somebody may get beat up more in a fight but still win doesn't mean he isn't skilled. Look at Chavez Sr. He got his in most of his fights but he won most of them from his Skills. His iron Jaw and ripping body shots.

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              #126
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              1- Styles makes fights. Just because you are the most skilled doesnt mean one lucky punch wont change your night. Jones-Tarver.


              2- There is ALSO video of Floyd saying hed love to fight Miguel Cotto.

              3- Um when else was he suppose to do it? He was the Number 1 WW and P4P Number 3 when he fought him. Also a guy that Pac wanted no parts of.

              4- Is Floyd retired. Yes or No man.

              5- When did I call ODH-Floyd an ass whooping. Pac whooped Oscars ass but he was a shell of himself and had no business at 147. But that goes un mentioned by you.

              6- See Number 1.
              1. Thats why i think Meldrick Taylor has a more better skillset then Mayweather. Its just his prime was lost in his battle with Chavez.

              2.There is also video saying Cotto isn't a big enough attraction.

              3.Should have fought him before he retired the 1st time at least. After the Margarito win or even after the Cotto Lose. Since he fought Judah after the Baldy lost.

              4. IDK if he is retired or not. You never know these days. Since he only fights for money like he clearly states and not for legacy or for his fans. He is in the check cashing business and clearly not for satisfying or CLEANING up boxing like he is saying.

              5.You said Pacquiao fought DLH and Hatton a year after Floyd whooped they ass's. im just saying. Plus Hatton always ****** at 147 and was lineal champ at 140 and the BEST at that weight when Pac put him to sleep.

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                #127
                Originally posted by dde91
                EXACTLY. Every great fighter is Skilled and they perfected there skill to the fullest. Floyds is defense. You ever see Duran on the jump ropes?? man that guy was naturally skilled in everything he did training and in the ring.

                In my Opinion you have to have skills to win. And just because somebody may get beat up more in a fight but still win doesn't mean he isn't skilled. Look at Chavez Sr. He got his in most of his fights but he won most of them from his Skills. His iron Jaw and ripping body shots.
                JCC skills are very underrated. Even his defense was underrated. On the inside he could turn punches roll off punches.

                Now I am not saying he was a defensive wizard or in elite level as a pure skills go. But, his skillset was underrated. combinations were beautiful body shots wow... Amazing

                There was a debate on here like a month ago. On who was more skilled between Oscar and JCC. Some people picked Oscar. But, they really don't understand the different skillset there is in boxing. People think just cuz a fighter is quick, flashy, fast, and uses the ring automatically becomes a great skill fighter. But, is really not the case.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by dde91
                  1. Thats why i think Meldrick Taylor has a more better skillset then Mayweather. Its just his prime was lost in his battle with Chavez.

                  2.There is also video saying Cotto isn't a big enough attraction.

                  3.Should have fought him before he retired the 1st time at least. After the Margarito win or even after the Cotto Lose. Since he fought Judah after the Baldy lost.

                  4. IDK if he is retired or not. You never know these days. Since he only fights for money like he clearly states and not for legacy or for his fans. He is in the check cashing business and clearly not for satisfying or CLEANING up boxing like he is saying.

                  5.You said Pacquiao fought DLH and Hatton a year after Floyd whooped they ass's. im just saying. Plus Hatton always ****** at 147 and was lineal champ at 140 and the BEST at that weight when Pac put him to sleep.
                  Im a BIG fan of Taylor but hes just not in Floyds league skill wise bro. Floyd does not take that many blows from Chavez.

                  I challenge you and any other poster in here to just simply watch him fight. Watch him fight then report your findings.

                  Boxing LITERALLY means hit and not get hit. Floyd has that mastered.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    Im a BIG fan of Taylor but hes just not in Floyds league skill wise bro. Floyd does not take that many blows from Chavez.

                    I challenge you and any other poster in here to just simply watch him fight. Watch him fight then report your findings.

                    Boxing LITERALLY means hit and not get hit. Floyd has that mastered.
                    Floyd won't fight the best guys in their prime. He looks great beating up smaller guys and washed up fighters.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Sgt Rock
                      Floyd won't fight the best guys in their prime. He looks great beating up smaller guys and washed up fighters.
                      Amongst all this discussion this is what you bring to your OWN table?

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