Who had a better career? Mike Tyson or Oscar de la Hoya?

[fdotorres]

Okay. I'm not even going to argue. You know what? Let's agree to disagree, how's that sound? You clearly don't like ODH, and that's fine. You don't think he's an ATG, and I do. We'll just leave it at that.

you talk about him being a top 50 ATG, but you don't bother to post your 50 atg list?

looks like you don't even have one made, yet you're placing him in it

[CarlosG815]

what is up with this guy... Damn heeb he got you with this nailed it to the tee. You and your Boricua biased for saying Oscar is overrated. Your Cintron nuthugging ways makes you think he is not an ATG.

I guess this thread makes me a Puerto Rican too with Carlos logic.

I am not going to lie though I would rep Cupey Alto Puerto Rico... And, I think you know why




hahahahahaha

Let me so your top 50 ATG list... I demand to see a list that has Oscar in the top 50. Show it or GTFO...

No seriously though, I would like to see your top 50 list.

Says the guy with "Cancer patient" Oscar getting beat up in a terrible fight. You obviously don't know **** about boxing so why even say anything? You're just a fanboy and don't know ****.

Oscar is an ATG. If he isn't, then we had better scratch a lot of others off the list, and it's going to be one hell of a short list.

[jrosales13]

Says the guy with "Cancer patient" Oscar getting beat up in a terrible fight. You obviously don't know **** about boxing so why even say anything? You're just a fanboy and don't know ****.

Oscar is an ATG. If he isn't, then we had better scratch a lot of others off the list, and it's going to be one hell of a short list.

Like it should be...

And, lets say Oscar is not an ATG. What ATG fighters would you scratch of the list?

[gibo]

hoja made more money due to his cheerleaders fans that bought every bull**** fight he put on PPV. But Tyson never challenged anyone smaller or 2 weight classes below him, and got his ass knocked the **** out!!!! Tyson lost to bigger fighters in the heavyweight division!! Not to hand-picked lightweights like delehoja!!!!! So your asking? Better Career? As in what? Making more money? Or who really can fight??

[joe strong]

this is tough one but I'll go odh but nobody was feared like Tyson until after the Douglas fight.one thing I read a few months back comparing them.in a 10 fight span Tyson generated $567 million at the gate while odh did like $350 in a 12 fight span....heavyweight was always where the $$$ was at.mike Tyson could sell ppv fighting Clifford etienne

[jrosales13]

For a person who claims to be a boxing trainer and insider, this is a pretty ****** statement. You are going to factor in a fight in 2002 when Mike was totally shot and 12 years past his best into his standing in regards to greatness?

Mike ranks higher than both Holyfield and Lennox Lewis in HW and ATG rankings. There's a reason why Lennox and Mike didn't fight when Mike came out of jail. Lewis declined a shot at Mike's title and a career highest purse and instead accepted a small amount of money, a fraction of what he'd have earned for fighting Mike, and no title because at that time he wanted no part of Tyson. Tyson KO's Lewis quickly and easily in 96/97 and Lewis knew it, which is why he accepted step aside money, passed on a title shot and career highest purse, and was later stripped of all his belts for refusing to face top fighters.

To honestly compare Lennox Lewis to Mike Tyson in regards to greatness is truly ludicrous, man.

The first fight to Holyfield, while dirty, was still a great fight and showed how tough Mike was, despite being headbutt until his entire head was swollen, he fought like a warrior for 10 rounds.

And, yet I am the fan boy who don't know about boxing

[Gorilla Dogs]

Hoya had the bette career




Tyson was overrall the better fighter

[Frighteous]

MIKE peaked harder, dlh lasted longer.

[CarlosG815]

And, yet I am the fan boy who don't know about boxing

Is that so? Give me your analysis of Lennox' career and I will give you mine. We'll see exactly how much knowledge you actually lack. Tell me exactly how he had a better career than Mike and what he did that will make him go down in history as the greater fighter.

[jrosales13]

Is that so? Give me your analysis of Lennox' career and I will give you mine. We'll see exactly how much knowledge you actually lack. Tell me exactly how he had a better career than Mike and what he did that will make him go down in history as the greater fighter.

Not saying that Lennox is clearly the greater fight. But, is idiotic to think that such argument is ludicrous.

Lewis with underrated quick fluid combination, technically proficient, with a power right hand and how he learned to use his size could cause any HW problems.

Not saying he could beat any HW, but saying he could cause any HW problems.

A lot of people like to say he had a glass chin but IMO that is not true. Lennox chin wasn't granite but wasn't glass either. He took bombs from Bruno, Holyfield, Klitschko, and Mercer and stayed up right.

I consider the 90's the second best era for HW boxing right behind the 70's. And, Lewis was the man, the best fighter, dominated the 2nd half of the 90's.

Lewis competition from 1991-2003 on paper was very solid. That is a 12 year span my dude. And, he fought solid comp throughout starting in 1991 coming in as an underdog to a very hard punching Razor Ruddock, also held wins agaisnst Bruno, Morrison, Galota,Briggs, Akiwande, Holyfield was passed his best but at the time still an elite level HW, Grant and Tua were rated very highly at the time also, I don't give him credit for Tyson since Tyson was shot but he beat Vitaly before retiring.

Lewis lost to McCall and Rahman but avenged both losses. Lewis has held a win over every single opponent he has faced. Very rare in any era. He is one of only 5 guys to regain the lineal HW championship. And, is one of only 3 guys to retire as the lineal HW champ and so far stay retired.

I rank him higher than Tyson, he had the longevity and a good resume. Not saying that he would go down as the greater fighter. But, I rank him higher. Now what I am saying is that it is not ludicrous to compare both fighters in terms of greatness. Only fan boy would think that.