Comments Thread For: Conte: Mayweather Justified To Test "Su****ious" Pacquiao

[Vito Corleone]

sad fact that haters just can't see this. All they see is steroids, steroids, steroids.....

So, Pac was fighting smaller men at 130? Pac was really a LW and JWW who was fighting SFW's and FW's?

Or in the case of Larios, a SBW?

[Blubba]

Same guy who said this.

"Overwhelming majority of boxers are on steroids"

Conte said that what most people don’t understand is that steroids are more effective when tapering off in the system. “This is when you get the best results. This is when you are much more powerful from a performance standpoint.”

The key to lowering steroid use in boxing, in Conte’s estimation, is testing out of competition. “I don’t even think every boxing match needs steroid testing,” Conte said.

Basically saying Floyd could be on PEDS since he is amongst a few boxers who takes a long time out of competition. Plenty of time to juice up and then taper off to get ready for Olympic style drug testing lol.

[AFighter4U]

So, Pac was fighting smaller men at 130? Pac was really a LW and JWW who was fighting SFW's and FW's?

Or in the case of Larios, a SBW?

I'm sorry, but i cannot see the connection between my statement and your question. Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else's post?

Oh, and for the record, floyd jr. is ALSO turning down the fight with all the conditions offered to Manny in 2009. If those conditions were ok to floyd jr. then, why not now?

As for the purse split, at 50-50, neither of them will EVER find another opponent which could earn them more, even if they each got a 70-30 split. Other than Manny or Floyd jr., who else could possibly match their ppv?

[Vadrigar.]

sad fact that haters just can't see this. All they see is steroids, steroids, steroids.....

The basis behind standard testing is the same as that of OST, on OST is better.

Manny should conceded the 14 day cut off

[Vito Corleone]

I'm sorry, but i cannot see the connection between my statement and your question. Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else's post?

Oh, and for the record, floyd jr. is ALSO turning down the fight with all the conditions offered to Manny in 2009. If those conditions were ok to floyd jr. then, why not now?

As for the purse split, at 50-50, neither of them will EVER find another opponent which could earn them more, even if they each got a 70-30 split. Other than Manny or Floyd jr., who else could possibly match their ppv?

1) You agreed with a post that Pac had been draining himself. Then - by definition - Pac was fighting smaller men...right?

2) What was the earnings disparity in their last two fights? Who cac make more without the other guy?

[AFighter4U]

1) You agreed with a post that Pac had been draining himself. Then - by definition - Pac was fighting smaller men...right?

2) What was the earnings disparity in their last two fights? Who cac make more without the other guy?

Not really. He was merely fighting men who were more accustomed to that particular weight, whereas he felt staying at 130 was getting more and more difficult for him, so he went up in weight. Its quite natural for fighters to go up in weight as time passes.

Floyd jr. is a perfect example. He started at 106 lbs.

106 lbs!

And now he fought as high as 154 lbs. So based on your statements, are you saying that floyd fought super featherweight fighters when he should be actually superwelterweight? Of course not.

As for the fight purse, let me ask you this. Other than Manny, what other fighter can allow Mayweather jr. to earn more in a fight? Even with a 70-30 split in HIS favor, there is in truth, no other fighter in the planet whom Floyd jr. can fight that can give him the numbers Manny would.

No one.

Floyd jr. knows this and so do all the promoters. If floyd jr. insists in a 60-40 split in his favor, then he'll basically ruin the chance of the fight happening since Manny already stated that he'd NEVER go less than 50-50.

it is true that Mayweather WILL MOST LIKELY EARN MORE THAN MANNY if they choose to fight other challengers.

But it is also true that he will earn SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, no matter how the purse is split in his favor if he fights someone else other than Manny.

In other words, his fight with manny at 50-50 is bigger than any other fight he can possibly make.

[jltsmae]

1) You agreed with a post that Pac had been draining himself. Then - by definition - Pac was fighting smaller men...right?

2) What was the earnings disparity in their last two fights? Who cac make more without the other guy?

It's sad for boxing that after all, it is about business/ money and not about pure boxing/ fighting at all. what a shame...

[Frighteous]

all you have to do to know pac used illegal steroids/hgh is

google normal human body hgh changes age 20 35

and the information is exactly in line with pacquaio's jump of weight classes

[AFighter4U]

all you have to do to know pac used illegal steroids/hgh is

google normal human body hgh changes age 20 35

and the information is exactly in line with pacquaio's jump of weight classes

Jumping weight CLASSES and jumping weight are two ENTIRELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

If it is su****ious for Manny to jump weight classes, that would make floyd jr. EVEN MORE SU****IOUS since he started at 106 lbs and went as high as 154 lbs! But if you look at how both Manny and floyd jr. ACTUALLY WEIGHED during fights, you would notice that their weight changes were actually quite gradual and normal among fighters.

[Lorily]

Not really. He was merely fighting men who were more accustomed to that particular weight, whereas he felt staying at 130 was getting more and more difficult for him, so he went up in weight. Its quite natural for fighters to go up in weight as time passes.

Floyd jr. is a perfect example. He started at 106 lbs.

106 lbs!

And now he fought as high as 154 lbs. So based on your statements, are you saying that floyd fought super featherweight fighters when he should be actually superwelterweight? Of course not.

As for the fight purse, let me ask you this. Other than Manny, what other fighter can allow Mayweather jr. to earn more in a fight? Even with a 70-30 split in HIS favor, there is in truth, no other fighter in the planet whom Floyd jr. can fight that can give him the numbers Manny would.

No one.

Floyd jr. knows this and so do all the promoters. If floyd jr. insists in a 60-40 split in his favor, then he'll basically ruin the chance of the fight happening since Manny already stated that he'd NEVER go less than 50-50.

it is true that Mayweather WILL MOST LIKELY EARN MORE THAN MANNY if they choose to fight other challengers.

But it is also true that he will earn SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, no matter how the purse is split in his favor if he fights someone else other than Manny.

In other words, his fight with manny at 50-50 is bigger than any other fight he can possibly make.

I agree with you.
When FMJ came back from "retirement" and was preparing to fight JMM, reporters kept pestering Floyd about 'what do you think of Manny doing this' and 'what do you think of Manny doing that'? Floyds answer: "I done the same thing!!" There was no mention of steroids until after Floyd Sr. said something to the press after the Cotto fight. Now FMJs answer: "You don't go from being ordinary to being extraordinary."