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  • feroth
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    #141
    Come on mannnnnnn how can anyone condone this **** that Manny says? This ****ing prick ONLY got a 50-50 the last time they negotiated because he said his fight with Cotto did more PPVs than Floyd's fight with Marquez. The fact is he doesn't deserve 50-50. Floyd's done 5.9million buys in his last 4 fights....Manny on the other hand hasn't is shy of 5.4million in 12 ****ing PPV fights, his last 4 did 4 mill...thats 2million LESS. Floyd holds the record for the biggest live gate at 19mil for 17K ppl. Manny did less than 15mil when he sold 50K tickets, Floyd vs Shane did 11mil for 15K ppl, Manny vs Cotto did 8mil for 17K ppl. Floyd holds the highest and second highest grossing non HW PPV fights in history....Manny doesn't. Floyd has 3 fights in the top 10 biggest live gates....Manny doesn't. When Manny vs Marquez was competitive it did 400K in PPVs, when Floyd vs Marquez was considered a joke it did 1.1million. Manny ducked Shane admittedly for being a tougher fight n Cotto being the bigger draw than Shane, Floyd by their own admission not only beat a tougher challenge but also did bigger numbers against a the guy who's less of a draw.

    Boxing is a ****ing business, Floyd doesn't work for ****ing world vision and the multi million dollar congressman of the Philipines isn't a charity case. You get what you deserve. Yeah its a big fight, the purse split alone is 50mil. The diff b/w 50-50 n 60-40 is 5million alone and with PPV and Gate revenue taken into account we're talking about Floyd DONATING upwards of 15-20million dollars of HIS money to Pacquiao? Are you ***ing kidding me?

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    • rommel357
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      #142
      Originally posted by check hook
      pac vs Cotto rematch here we come. Seems he is not interested in fighting Mayweather.
      LOL!!! Pac wants 50/50 and he's the one that's not interested in fighting Floyd. Yeah okay.

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      • WESS
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        #143
        Originally posted by rommel357
        LOL!!! Pac wants 50/50 and he's the one that's not interested in fighting Floyd. Yeah okay.
        He turned down the fight when he had 50% last time. Remember?

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          #144
          Originally posted by T.I.
          I ain't forgetting a thing. This is all BS and you guys are buying it. LOL!
          I think Manny forgot it's "Not his job to negotiate". I thought he lets Arum do that for him, I keep hearing him throwing up roadblocks, 40% of a Mayweather fight is more than he's making getting 70% of a Cotto purse. I say F-'em. Mayweather doesn't need him, he'll make at least 15 mill fighting anyone, maybe 30 to 40 fighting a name at 154lbs or 160lbs

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          • switchsouthpaw
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            #145
            Originally posted by feroth
            Come on mannnnnnn how can anyone condone this **** that Manny says? This ****ing prick ONLY got a 50-50 the last time they negotiated because he said his fight with Cotto did more PPVs than Floyd's fight with Marquez. The fact is he doesn't deserve 50-50. Floyd's done 5.9million buys in his last 4 fights....Manny on the other hand hasn't is shy of 5.4million in 12 ****ing PPV fights, his last 4 did 4 mill...thats 2million LESS. Floyd holds the record for the biggest live gate at 19mil for 17K ppl. Manny did less than 15mil when he sold 50K tickets, Floyd vs Shane did 11mil for 15K ppl, Manny vs Cotto did 8mil for 17K ppl. Floyd holds the highest and second highest grossing non HW PPV fights in history....Manny doesn't. Floyd has 3 fights in the top 10 biggest live gates....Manny doesn't. When Manny vs Marquez was competitive it did 400K in PPVs, when Floyd vs Marquez was considered a joke it did 1.1million. Manny ducked Shane admittedly for being a tougher fight n Cotto being the bigger draw than Shane, Floyd by their own admission not only beat a tougher challenge but also did bigger numbers against a the guy who's less of a draw.

            Boxing is a ****ing business, Floyd doesn't work for ****ing world vision and the multi million dollar congressman of the Philipines isn't a charity case. You get what you deserve. Yeah its a big fight, the purse split alone is 50mil. The diff b/w 50-50 n 60-40 is 5million alone and with PPV and Gate revenue taken into account we're talking about Floyd DONATING upwards of 15-20million dollars of HIS money to Pacquiao? Are you ***ing kidding me?

            Here is a question if Floyd fought Clottey, without the aid of HBO 24/7 (marketing) against an opponent with no marketability, what would those PPV numbers eventually look like? Who would fill up a stadium to watch him fight?

            Vegas is quite a different animal in terms of hosting a sporting event, any major event taking place in a city, that is that is also an attraction unto itself, will all but guarantee a certain level of success. Take Floyd out of Vegas(we all know he won't leave for a reason) and put him in with someone who isn't a household name and this numbers game becomes a moot point.
            Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 06-22-2010, 10:35 AM.

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              #146
              These have all been beaten to death, but i'll bite.

              Originally posted by WESS
              I didn't buy anything. I just find it amusing that Pac is attempting to accept what he turned down the first time.
              You didn't buy anything? Why was 14 days good enough back then but not anymore? Why once manny agreed to the blood testing 14 days (floyds terms), floyd looked for another issue (60/40) split, knowing manny wouldn't accept those terms.

              Pac is willing to accept it this time to COMPROMISE and give the FANS what WE want. How hard is that to comprehend? Any boxing fan wouldn't care about this ****. Fact is Manny accepted terms that were set by Floyd himself.

              Originally posted by WESS
              Mayweather already explained months ago that if Pac runs away, this is what would happen. I.E. if he beats Mosley and sells more PPV's than Pac he would request more money and no cut offs. He beat Mosley and he doubled Pac's PPV's. The point is Mayweather called it and now Pac is trying to back track.
              Pac ran away? LOL! Why would he change his mind? What has changed? And Manny/Roach already stated that they would fight the Floyd/Shane winner. Manny announced that in the post fight interview with clottey.

              Pac backtracking? Floyd is the one backtracking taking back all the terms he set forth. Pacquiao is COMPROMISING to get this fight to happen for the FANS, yet Floyd is saying.. 'no more deal' 'i'm going to take 2 years off' .. LOL!

              Originally posted by WESS
              In the mean team his team is saying that Pac wouldn't fight undefeated Timothy Bradley because "He's not promoted enough" (yet clottey was?) and that "Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather" and "Shane Mosley is too good"...
              Manny fights Bradley, destroys him and you'll have people saying manny ducked floyd and that bradley was overrated or too green still. Manny already stated he'd fight the winner of shane/floyd at his post fight interview after the clottey fight.

              Originally posted by WESS
              Cherry picking at its finest. Isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for? Ouch
              How is manny cherry picking? Manny is compromising and trying to get this fight made. Floyd is making it more difficult. Not that hard to see.

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              • feroth
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                #147
                Originally posted by switchsouthpaw
                Here is a question if Floyd fought Clottey, without the aid of HBO 24/7 (marketing) against an opponent with no marketability, what would those PPV numbers eventually look like? Who would fill up a stadium to watch him fight?

                Vegas is quite a different animal in terms of hosting a sporting event, any major event taking place in a city that is that is also attraction unto itself, will all but guarantee a certain level of success. Take Floyd out of Vegas(we all know he won't leave for a reason) and put him in with someone who isn't a household name and this numbers game becomes a moot point.
                well you don't have to take Floyd outa Vegas numbnuts cuz the fight IS in VEGAS. **** the Clottey fight fool look at the 3 common guys they fought, Floyd did better numbers in all 3 fights. Everyone knew Cotto was a bigger draw than Shane n everyone thought Manny vs Cotto would be more competitive n possibly a great fight yet Floyd's fight with Shane became the 2nd biggest grossing PPV fight just after his fight with Oscar n went into the top 10 biggest live gates while Manny's fight with Cotto did none of those things.

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                  #148
                  Originally posted by formarkiz
                  I think Manny forgot it's "Not his job to negotiate". I thought he lets Arum do that for him, I keep hearing him throwing up roadblocks, 40% of a Mayweather fight is more than he's making getting 70% of a Cotto purse. I say F-'em. Mayweather doesn't need him, he'll make at least 15 mill fighting anyone, maybe 30 to 40 fighting a name at 154lbs or 160lbs
                  You don't think a fighter has a say about the money he makes? LOL!

                  50% (even 30-40%) of a fight with pacquiao will get floyd more money than any other fight in boxing right now.

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                  • switchsouthpaw
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by feroth
                    well you don't have to take Floyd outa Vegas numbnuts cuz the fight IS in VEGAS. **** the Clottey fight fool look at the 3 common guys they fought, Floyd did better numbers in all 3 fights. Everyone knew Cotto was a bigger draw than Shane n everyone thought Manny vs Cotto would be more competitive n possibly a great fight yet Floyd's fight with Shane became the 2nd biggest grossing PPV fight just after his fight with Oscar n went into the top 10 biggest live gates while Manny's fight with Cotto did none of those things.
                    You sound like a poor man's Mr. T, which I thought was impossible to emulate, but you had me at fool. I was merely proposing a hypothetical which obviously went over your head. And my contention is that had Pac faced Mosley, the numbers would have been comparable.
                    Last edited by switchsouthpaw; 06-22-2010, 10:42 AM.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by AmericanFighter
                      Dude, can't you read brotha?

                      If you can't say, "7 Weight Divisions, 7 Titles, 3-time Fighter Of The Year, and Fighter Of The Decade", then shut the "F" up.
                      you forgot to mention the only boxer to
                      win the lineal championship in four
                      different weight classes

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