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Man everyone wants aclean sport, but PEDs don't turn you into superman in boxing. Mosley not on drugs in 2000 did better then when he juiced up in 2004. Vargas roided up and got KOed against oscar, and Holyfield roided up against Toney and got KOed. pacquiao probably isn't on steroids, but Mayweather beats him regardless.
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No, they don't turn you into superman - nothing does. I don't understand your point. One, you don't know if Mosley used drugs in 2000 or not. Two, he certainly looked a lot better against Oscar the second time than he had looked in years. Years. Same could be said for Vargas. Did he lose to Oscar? Yes. But he looked a lot better than he had in his previous bouts. Holyfield roided up against Toney? Are you sure? If yes, how do you know Toney didn't do the same? I could go on, man.Comment
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Mosley became assosiated with balco after the forrest losses. He was on roids for the Winky and Oscar fights. I really can't go by speculation and say how do we not know _______ was on roids without proof. I know Mosley used it for Oscar the second time and Vargas did so against Oscar as well. However, its useless saying how do we not know someone used it when there is no proof. Either way Mayweather beats him.Comment
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I see no problem with a fight being called off because one of the fighters is a cheat, fact is all the things that would happen would make people think twice about cheating, cause they could very well be dropped from their contract with the major networks for costing them money, get sued, or worse, get suspended. I don't consider $$$ or a great fight more important that the health of a fighter, and in boxing any advantage could amount to a life or death situation.Comment
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I know when he became associated with BALCO - that doesn't stop him or clear him of any time before then. It sure looked like both were on some sort of enhancer in that first bout. But as you said - speculation, which is exactly what I was referring to with regards to Toney. Anyway, it's possible Mayweather beats him but that doesn't matter. In a sport where fighters put their life on the line, he's well within reason to ask for tougher tests - even if they don't make you "superman" (whatever that means).Comment
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as a fan, i dont mind too if the fight will be cancelled because the other fighter is caught cheating.
however, the point of the TS is what will the promoters, fighters and other involved would do, when millions of $$$$$$ are already spent in promoting the fight. would they hold a gag order between the parties to continue the fight regardless of other fighter being a ped user?
promoters would have already thought about this scenario, so they could include in the contract that the cheater could be sued to pay the promoter's loss, in case the fight is cancelled. however, whta the TS said about those fans, who travelled across countries and spend huge $$$, being dismayed by the outcome of OST? are these fans same as we think?
also, how bout those sponsors, who only cares about earning millions? do they care about clean fights? if that happens, would they still spend millions to support a fight (requiring ost) knowing that the fight coulb called off?Comment
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Which is why it's perfect to deter fighters from cheating. They, among the countless of those involved financially, lose a fortune because of their shady tactics.
The risk of losing money shouldn't be the reason why there shouldn't be testing.Comment
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I would imagine that the USADA wouldn't want the fight to continue and both fighters should have the right to know if they're stepping in the ring with a cheat, if they chose to continue then so be it. My point is simply that all the negative consiquences and all the money lost would make all those involved more interested in being sure their fighters are clean, rather then put together a fight and have it be a complete waste because they allowed a fighter in their stable, or on their network without looking into wether they are doing something wrong..Comment
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It is messed up no doubt, what is worse is it even would penalize the clean fighter as the clean guy will have already paid for their camp and **** then the fights doesn't happean so they don't get paid.
Surely the clean fighter would be able to line something up but that is messed up.
It needs to happean (better testing) but with better testing does come the black eyes that uncovering cheaters brings.Comment
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