Regarding Pre-Fight PED Testing, Has Anyone Considered...

[Mr. Ryan]

That would really suck. But as Ray said, I'm sure they wouldn't reveal who tested postive, too much money involved. Of course that defeats the purpose also

Sooooo.....

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What the f^$# is the point of random drug testing then?

From what I understand about boxing, it's about making money. This is the anti-making money lol.

[Shabba Rank$]

Ponder this one thought for a moment.

Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao: The biggest fight in boxing since Leonard-Hagler? Ali-Frazier?

They sell out the arena in a matter of minutes. Fight fans from all over the world make the trip down to Vegas or Texas to watch. The media hype surrounding the event is unprecedented in the sport. TV networks from every continent converge on the venue to cover the event.

Then one fighter tests positive: The fight is off.

Does boxing recover from this black eye?

Sadly enough if said happens. Boxing WILL NOT recover from such a huge blow. Especially involving two of boxings megastars in Pacquiao and Mayweather.

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What happens if a fighter tests positive?

Of course that would invalidate the fight, right?

So what happens to the promotional companies that were publicizing and booking venues, hotels, plane tickets, paying commission fees to promote the fight?

Surely one positive test could conceivably cost a promoter millions of dollars, as well as any big-time network that had invested in the fight.

I could see this being an ugly situation with lots of lawsuits.

Plenty of fighters come in overweight, sometimes the fight gets cancelled sometimes there are some extra stipulations (Mayweather paying Marquez, Castillo having to re weigh in on fight night at 147 for teh 2nd fight with Corrales), sometimes the fight just happens (Corrales-Casamayor), sometimes it does not (Castillo-Corrales 3, Spinks-Saad Muhammad).

Same **** with PEDs

It's up to the clean fighter to decide wether he wants to go on with the fight, and under what conditions. The dirty fighter is open to lawsuits if the fight does not happen, so he has all interest in accepting anything remotely reasonable that's put on the table.

Do you suggest we should not have weight classes in boxing?

[Doctor_Tenma]

Sooooo.....

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What the f^$# is the point of random drug testing then?

From what I understand about boxing, it's about making money. This is the anti-making money lol.

For both guys to assure themselves of a fair bout. I understand where your going though...

[Mr. Ryan]

Sadly enough if said happens. Boxing WILL NOT recover from such a huge blow. Especially involving two of boxings megastars in Pacquiao and Mayweather.

So basically, if either guy tests positive for a banned substance, neither guy will have much of a sport to come back to because of how big the media spectacle would be.

Whether intended or not, any party involved in such a cancelled fight over a positive test would feel the sting of diminished consumer confidence.

Rafael Palmeiro testing positive for steroids after getting 3,000 hits was a bigger blow to baseball than Jorge Piedra testing positive.

I think this is the main reasoning behind the commission's unwillingness to completely submit to Mayweather's demands. Not that they have any inside evidence about fighters on roids, but what if? And not just in this fight, but other fights as well.

[Doctor_Tenma]

You know, even if both camps knew that the other tested postive and decided to keep it a secret; they would then be conning the public. If Mayweather or Pacquiao tested postive for any banned substances, I wouldn't want to lash out 60 bucks.

[Mr. Ryan]

Plenty of fighters come in overweight, sometimes the fight gets cancelled sometimes there are some extra stipulations (Mayweather paying Marquez, Castillo having to re weigh in on fight night at 147 for teh 2nd fight with Corrales), sometimes the fight just happens (Corrales-Casamayor), sometimes it does not (Castillo-Corrales 3, Spinks-Saad Muhammad).

Same **** with PEDs

It's up to the clean fighter to decide wether he wants to go on with the fight, and under what conditions. The dirty fighter is open to lawsuits if the fight does not happen, so he has all interest in accepting anything remotely reasonable that's put on the table.

Do you suggest we should not have weight classes in boxing?

My thinking is this: If a fighter tests positive for a banned substance, then wouldn't the integrity of the fight already be jeapordized. I'm no steroid expert, but I don't know of any elixirs that could drain steroids and their positive effects out of a fighter.

So say Marvin Hagler is fighting Sugar Ray Robinson and Hagler tests positive before a fight but they agree to go on anyways. Hagler wins, by knockout. They didn't protect anyone from injury by allowing it to go on, right? Do you rule it a no contest, since one fighter came into the fight with an unfair advantage that everyone knew about?

In a just world, when Margarito was found with plaster in his wraps, he should have been taken out in handcuffs and booked on conspiracy to commit aggravated assault and possession of a deadly weapon.

Knowing how many fans bought tickets, the powers that be wouldn't allow that to happen. The fight continued and punishment was meted out afterwards.

Though, it could argued that Mosley ending his welterweight title reign in such punishing fashion was also a part of justice.

[Mr. Ryan]

You know, even if both camps knew that the other tested postive and decided to keep it a secret; they would then be conning the public. If Mayweather or Pacquiao tested postive for any banned substances, I wouldn't want to lash out 60 bucks.

If they kept it secret and the fight went on anyways, what would be the point of the steroid testing? LOL

For post-fight excuses from the loser?

[Doctor_Tenma]

If they kept it secret and the fight went on anyways, what would be the point of the steroid testing? LOL

For post-fight excuses from the loser?

Well, that's what I was thinking about.

Be more comical to picture Floyd as the loser

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So basically, if either guy tests positive for a banned substance, neither guy will have much of a sport to come back to because of how big the media spectacle would be.

Whether intended or not, any party involved in such a cancelled fight over a positive test would feel the sting of diminished consumer confidence.

Rafael Palmeiro testing positive for steroids after getting 3,000 hits was a bigger blow to baseball than Jorge Piedra testing positive.

I think this is the main reasoning behind the commission's unwillingness to completely submit to Mayweather's demands. Not that they have any inside evidence about fighters on roids, but what if? And not just in this fight, but other fights as well.

I think they might have inside info that a lot of fighters are using some PEDs, and hence they are worried. Either that or Arum has a few ppl in his pocket (but Golden Boy should be able to bribe people too, so the latter does not seem likely)

Either way, when the NSAC brought in an "expert" whose main problem was the possibility that fighters got an infection, because needles might be REUSED, I knew right there there was an agenda. Even junkies have access to free needles these days. That stuff is NOT expensive.