Manny Pacquiao is Overrated

[jrosales13]

naw homie..im a great poster..dont get hot cause you have no comeback...

Comeback to what bro? Honestly dawg, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect you have become a **** poster. You was once a top poster. But, now you shot man... You just ****ty poster now... Get your game back man.

[Frank Ducketts]

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It is really hilarious how the Pacquiao fans criticise Floyd all the time, calling him a Cherrypicker and other names while overrating and overhyping Pacquiao, well lets see who the real cherry picker, lets go back in history:

Even though Pacquiao has been knocked out twice early in his career by some unknown fighters, I give him credit for where he is right now.... I mean the guy instantly became from zero to hero, but still he is getting vastly overrated now.

Pacquiao fought Erik Morales past his prime three times, and each time Morales was coming off a Loss on his record including the first time to Barrera and Second time to Zahir Raheem.

Cherry Picking? I think so...


Just Look at Pacquiao's FACE when he saw Morales lost to Zahir Raheem at 09:20 of this Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1vqJj9GvI

Out of the three times he faced a past prime Morales he lost ONCE to a past prime Erik Morales, anyone with a brain knows Morales had been in wars prior to fighting Pacquiao and everyone thought he wasnt the same fighter he once was but he STILL managed to beat Pacquiao in the first fight and thats a credit to the greatness of El Terrible.

Pacquiao has been carefully matched with the opponents that are tailor made for his style, we know a slick counterpuncher would beat Pacquiao this is why he did not face Zahir Raheem, he was having nightmares of what Marquez did with his counterpunching skills.

Most people in their true minds know Pacquiao Lost not once, but TWICE to Marquez, Especially in the second fight, their is no way someone can score that fight for Pacquiao without being a pacquiao fan, meaning only pacquiao fans or filipinos think Pacquiao won the second fight whilst most neutral boxing fans know Marquez won both fights against Pacquiao, the first one was closer, but the 2nd one Marquez clearly won it, Pacquiao only got away with 2 losses against Marquez with it because of his popularity.

The last time Oscar made the Welterweight limit was in 2001, 9 Years ago against Arturo Gatti. In other words Pacquiao fought a dead man in front of him who hadnt fought at this weight for almost a DECADE, Like him being past his prime wasnt enough? But Weight drain him too?

Anyway...We thought this was only a one off deal because we werent sure if Pacquiao was really that good at the higher weights, but when he beat Oscar and Hatton, why did he face Miguel Cotto at a catchweight of 145? I mean as if it wasnt enough that Cotto was possibly damaged by a man who used plaster of paris in his fight, In other words cotto was taking plaster for 11 rounds. That wasnt enough, you want to weight drain the guy too? Jeez..

BTW most of you probably know this, but for the some of you who dont, the weight drained versions of Oscar and Cotto Pacquiao was fighting were stylistically good match-ups in his favour, this is why I dont understand why didnt pacquiao fight them at their best? I think he would have beaten them and got credit for it and rightfully so. But instead he tried to get all advantages each time even though he is the P4P #1...The reason why they were good match-ups because Cotto and Oscar De La Hoya are Natural Lefties, their best punch is the left hook. Natural lefties who fight in an Orthodox stance,

Even Marco Antonio Barrera is a natural Lefty who fights Orthodox...


The punch that Pacquiao hates the most is the Straight right hand, and Marquez and Morales who are Natural Righties had success with it because they are Right handed Counter punchers. Cotto and De La Hoya dont have good straight right hand, like I said before careful matchmaking played a part in it...Now lets see Floyd Mayweather, a fighter who has the BEST STRAIGHT RIGHT Hand, and is a better counterpuncher than Marquez or Morales, Faster than them and basicly better in every boxing category you want to name.

Now do you guys believe why this fight didn't happen in November or March? Pacquiao wants no part of Mayweather even if him and his team like to pretend. In November it was "We agree to the testing" then later on it was "We dont agree to 24 days before the fight" and then in March when they were offered a 50-50 split and 14 day window, they fought Joshua Clottey.

When Mayweather-Mosley did 1.4 million buys (Higher than Pacquiao's highest PPV number which was 1.25 million against the Golden Boy Oscar De La Hoya) then they agreed to the 14 day window after they saw Floyd is the bigger draw.

Pacquiao fans like to comment on Floyd's personal life but what about him claiming to be religious while cheating on his wife? Or his connections with the Mafia? I honestly think Floyd is an honest guy, he isn't fake, he is willing to admit he fights for the money, other fighters pretend they fight for the legacy, but deep down everyone fights for the money. Do you guys Remember Pacquiao's negotiations vs Cotto, Hatton and De La Hoya?

Do you guys Remember Mayweather's negotiations with Hatton and De La Hoya? Compare the two...And you will know who is harder to negotiate with


Conclusion: Careful matchmaking, Catchweights, Fighting fighters after they are coming off losses, and fighting past their prime fighters have all been a part of where Manny Pacquiao is right now. Pacquiao's team has done a great job on him, they aren't as dumb as people think they are, the casual fans are being decieved because they dont know the background story, while the hardcore fans know everything that is happening.

Notice I am saying hardcore fans, the same fans who put boxing before any fighter, they are fan of the sport FIRST, and then the fighter, not the other way around like in the case of Pacquiao and his fans.

lol, good post dun lol...

[Left Hook Tua]

Comeback to what bro? Honestly dawg, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect you have become a **** poster. You was once a top poster. But, now you shot man... You just ****ty poster now... Get your game back man.

i respect no man with turqoise colored walls with flower decorations.

[Frank Ducketts]

you've become a **** poster Larry...dont cry when i come down from my Laker high and my anti-Floyd propaganda starts again next week

It won't ever top this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSI-T...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jzIhUZcg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSHS9i48Vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTKD4DNYTd4

[shogunn]

That's not what I'm seeing here on NSB. I've heard this many times "Pacquiao should go fight Cotto or Margarito, forget that *****". Where as most Boxing fans want to see Mayweather face Paul Williams, Sergio Martinez incase the Pacquiao fight doesn't go down. Even Steward said this (After Larry had asked him who else besides Pacquiao can Mayweather face) Steward said "Well the only other guy was Mosley and he did that tonight, unless he wants to move up and face Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez". All I'm saying is, I'm not hearing anything about Pacquiao facing a Paul Williams or Sergio Martinez. So why is Mayweather held to a much higher standard?

floyd fought at light middle weight before, whereas manny never has, and is a very small welterweight who can possibly still make 135 easily.

did that really have to be explained to you? just try to look at things objectively instead of trying to find ways to favor floyd all the time.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

naw homie..im a great poster..dont get hot cause you have no comeback...

you have always been a **** poster larry. you are only good at starting internet mafias & promoting those internet mafias.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

It won't ever top this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSI-T...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jzIhUZcg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDSHS9i48Vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0spkKaucBus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTKD4DNYTd4

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[infamous larryx]

you have always been a **** poster larry. you are only good at starting internet mafias & promoting those internet mafias.

lol..coming from the biggest hater on this site...thats hillarious

[infamous larryx]

Comeback to what bro? Honestly dawg, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect you have become a **** poster. You was once a top poster. But, now you shot man... You just ****ty poster now... Get your game back man.

everything i posted in my first post was all fact..

[Left Hook Tua]

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