Whos more talented Jones or Tyson?

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  • BadMagick
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
    Tyson was. He didnt get KOd
    in humiliating fashion like
    Jones. He didnt go out like
    a chump like Jones did.
    Hahahaha. I was seriously laughing at that. Tyson didn't go out a chump? He just lost to two bums, both who he was supposed to KO in 1. He lost the biggest upset in ALL of sports history, to Buster Douglas, and lost to every top class opponent he EVER fought. Evander, Lewis, etc. The only guys he beat were old and out of shape when he fought them, certainly out of their prime.

    Originally posted by Mike Tyson Jr.
    i wouldnt call 4 years
    of pure dominance "a
    flash in the pan"
    I would, compared to ten years of pure dominance.
    Last edited by BadMagick; 07-03-2005, 09:28 PM.

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    • SonnyG8R
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      #32
      Out of these two boxing superstars, which one was more talented over their careers?

      That's a no brainer. Jones was far more talented over the course of his career. Tyson was a a force of nature like no other for a while but it didn't last over the course of most of his 20 year career.

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      • ottoevans
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        #33
        wtf??? Its not even close. Roy Jones is the best fighter in this era after the Leonard and Ali age.

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        • BadMagick
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          #34
          Originally posted by ottoevans
          wtf??? Its not even close. Roy Jones is the best fighter in this era after the Leonard and Ali age.
          There are a couple who rank up with them, and can probably be regarded as higher class, due to the opponents they fought, JT for example. As far as natural talent, no body comes close to Jones. In fact, of all the fights I've ever watched, and I've seen Ali when he was Clay, and Leonard, and Robinson, and on and on, Roy Jones is the most athletically skilled I've ever seen. The others may be more technically skilled boxers, but as far as pure athleticism goes, Roy is heads above the rest of them.

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          • oldgringo
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            #35
            Jones easily. MTjr you're out of your element here. Being knocked out is part of the sport...and being KTFO in your prime is a lot more embarrassing than being KTFO when you're shot. Plus, Jones has never quit and Tyson has.

            Jones, Whitaker, Ali, Hearns, Taylor, Leonard, and Robinson are the most athletically gifted boxers that I've ever seen.

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            • Run
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              #36
              Ok. I think some people really need to reconsider their statements. A poster previously mentioned how Tyson was a "force of nature".....yes he was. His main claim to being skilled was his defense and headmovement. Lets be honest: he never posessed the level of skills Roy had and that is clear as day. RJJ set the bar for compubox statistics in punching accuracy, a feat that will never be surpassed.

              He could dodge punches and counterpunch as well as anyone who ever fought. He moved all the way up to heavyweight, relying on his natural ability to win the fight against Ruiz, after starting at Middleweight. Be real about this.....even Chris Byrd is more talented than Mike Tyson. If you people are trying to argue Tyson's point in winning fights...then you can point to other factors: Like Punching power, intimidation, and the forementioned defensive head movement.

              1.) He was not fleet footed to say the least. Roy owned him in this category.

              2.) He only fought at 1 weight class. Roy was more diverse and moved all the way up in heavyweight.

              3.) Tyson may have had a high K.O. percentage, but did not set COMPUBOX RECORDS FOR ACCURACY IN ****ING PUNCHING.

              4.) Roy only had 2 LEGITIMATE losses and they came at the end of his career. He avenged his first disqualification loss by knockout....which supercedes Tyson never having avenged a single ****ing loss of his.

              5.) Roy displayed his skills against a whole other level of competition. There is no comparison....so I dont want to have to go there.

              6.) Roy is generally regarded as the greatest fighter of our era...and Tyson the most devistating.

              Enough ****ing said. This topic is ridiculous.



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              • sisforshaq
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                #37
                Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                Ok. I think some people really need to reconsider their statements. A poster previously mentioned how Tyson was a "force of nature".....yes he was. His main claim to being skilled was his defense and headmovement. Lets be honest: he never posessed the level of skills Roy had and that is clear as day. RJJ set the bar for compubox statistics in punching accuracy, a feat that will never be surpassed.

                He could dodge punches and counterpunch as well as anyone who ever fought. He moved all the way up to heavyweight, relying on his natural ability to win the fight against Ruiz, after starting at Middleweight. Be real about this.....even Chris Byrd is more talented than Mike Tyson. If you people are trying to argue Tyson's point in winning fights...then you can point to other factors: Like Punching power, intimidation, and the forementioned defensive head movement.

                1.) He was not fleet footed to say the least. Roy owned him in this category.

                2.) He only fought at 1 weight class. Roy was more diverse and moved all the way up in heavyweight.

                3.) Tyson may have had a high K.O. percentage, but did not set COMPUBOX RECORDS FOR ACCURACY IN ****ING PUNCHING.

                4.) Roy only had 2 LEGITIMATE losses and they came at the end of his career. He avenged his first disqualification loss by knockout....which supercedes Tyson never having avenged a single ****ing loss of his.

                5.) Roy displayed his skills against a whole other level of competition. There is no comparison....so I dont want to have to go there.

                6.) Roy is generally regarded as the greatest fighter of our era...and Tyson the most devistating.

                Enough ****ing said. This topic is ridiculous.
                That was very well put, I was just laying the question out there to see what people had thought

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                • Run
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by sisforshaq
                  That was very well put, I was just laying the question out there to see what people had thought
                  Im not trying to insult this thread. I was just pointing out how I feel the arguement can not be made for Tyson. That is all.



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                  • Truth
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                    #39
                    They are both great but Roy had the better career with out a doubt. And as far as talent, probably Roy but its close.

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                    • sisforshaq
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                      Im not trying to insult this thread. I was just pointing out how I feel the arguement can not be made for Tyson. That is all.
                      Alright well yeah I see it also as Roy by a landslide but some people think different and I just was seeing what the reaons for Tyson would be

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