Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: The Best At 168 And Looking To Get Better

[Dave Rado]

I dunno who's better they havent fought each other, but Bute is the concensus number 1 so the title of this article is dumb.

Agreed. Bute is The Ring's #1. There's an argument for either of them being #1 and it's impossible to know who would win until they eventually fight, but to pretend that Ward is the clear #1 is silly.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

Dirrell and Bute may have a problem with the headline. I say the fight each other also.

[LeadUppercut]

I respect Bute a lot, but the winner of the Super 6 is going to be the best 168 pounder in the world.

We don't know yet if that is going to be Ward but as of right now he's the favorite.

Correct, the winner of the Super-6 will be the best 168lb'er in the world.

You have to walk the gauntlet to win that competition.

Bute is a beast.

But Ward looks to be something special.

[Dave Rado]

Correct, the winner of the Super-6 will be the best 168lb'er in the world.

Given that the fighter currently rated #1 isn't even in the Super 6, that makes no sense. Bute should have really been in it, but he wasn't invited, for whatever reason, and so the winner of the Super 6 has to fight Bute before anyone can be called the best 168 pounder in the world.

[Dick Buffman]

Headbutting Kessler into submission in a horribly biased reffed fight doesn't make you the best at 168.

Not even close.

Lets see where Billy Goat Gruff is by the end of the tournament before we get ahead of ourselves.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Given that the fighter currently rated #1 isn't even in the Super 6, that makes no sense. Bute should have really been in it, but he wasn't invited, for whatever reason, and so the winner of the Super 6 has to fight Bute before anyone can be called the best 168 pounder in the world.

The winner of the super 6 will have a resume way better than Bute's.

Whoever wins the tourney is the most proven and the man at 168.

[Dave Rado]

The winner of the super 6 will have a resume way better than Bute's.

Only because Bute was excluded from it. You can't have it both ways, you either have to include him, or you have to agree that the Super 6 winner has to face him before anyone can call themselves the best at the weight. He's ranked #1 by The Ring, and you don't lose a ranking like that simply because Showtime decides to exclude you from a tournament. That would be ridiculous. Rankings should be based on quality, not on who Showtime happens to think are their best money makers.

[Dick Buffman]

Only because Bute was excluded from it. You can't have it both ways, you either have to include him, or you have to agree that the Super 6 winner has to face him before anyone can call themselves the best at the weight. He's ranked #1 by The Ring, and you don't lose a ranking like that simply because Showtime decides to exclude you from a tournament. That would be ridiculous.

I don't even see how this even needs to be explained.

[BattlingNelson]

Only because Bute was excluded from it. You can't have it both ways, you either have to include him, or you have to agree that the Super 6 winner has to face him before anyone can call themselves the best at the weight. He's ranked #1 by The Ring, and you don't lose a ranking like that simply because Showtime decides to exclude you from a tournament. That would be ridiculous. Rankings should be based on quality, not on who Showtime happens to think are their best money makers.

When the supersix is finished the winner will have a resumee that ****s on everything Bute has and will do in the mean time. Beating the Brinkley's of this world cannot leave him standing on top of the 168 lb rankings.

I'm definetely with burner here.

[Dave Rado]

When the supersix is finished the winner will have a resumee that ****s on everything Bute has and will do in the mean time. Beating the Brinkley's of this world cannot leave him standing on top of the 168 lb rankings.

I'm definetely with burner here.

So if HBO organised a Jr Welterweight Super 6 that excluded Bradley and Alexander, would that make the winner the #1 Jr Welterweight? Or if they had a Heavyweight Super 6 that excluded the Klitschkos, would that make the winner the #1 Heavyweight? What if they had a Light Heavyweight Super 6 that excluded Dawson - would that make the winner the #1 Light Heavyweight? Showtime were idiots for excluding Bute. It just compounds the felony if the winner doesn't fight Bute for all the marbles.

If Bute was avoiding the best fights in his division, then his ranking should suffer. But if he's being excluded by a broadcaster from facing the best fighters, then only that broadcaster's credibility should suffer, not his ranking.