Rafael Marquez-Juan Manuel Lopez Clash In Works For September

[Mr. Fantastic]

Yeah, Rafa is definitely overrated.

He was just the first man to beat Marc Johnson (a southpaw) in 10 years and then went on to be the first to knock him out too. Marc Johnson being on P4P lists when it wasn't even fashionable to have fighters under 135 on P4P lists means nothing.

Marquez only knocked out an undefeated Tim Austin making like his 10th defense of a title. Tim Austin (another southpaw) was just a top bantamweight for a few years.

I would mention Mabuza, Pastrana, and Vazquez, but they are all overrated.

You're right Rafa is overrated, Lopez has proved himself much more by beating De Leon, Penalosa, Luevano, and Mtagwa.

How many times did Mtagwa get knocked out before coming close to stopping Lopez?

This is ownage at its best right here .

[warp1432]

Pastrana and austin who????

Im not saying Juanma is more proven that Marquez that would be ridiculous.

But you make its seem like Rafa have a stellar resume, and is far from it.

Let alone getting stoped 4 times in the process!!




Watch Juanma dispose his ass with ease and you claming Rafa was shot!

Pastrana has a win over Antonio Escalante and pretty much lost to every other 122 pounder.

Tim Austin had 9 title defenses of the IBF bantamweight title and was regarded.

Oh and Marquez definitely isn't shot or slowed down. Especially being in his third weight class and having 3 brutal wars with Vazquez alone. Not to mention his other wars. Don't factor any of those in.

One thing that Valero and Lopez had in common was that a whole bunch of their fights ended early. But what separated them was the fact that Valero had twelve round stamina and Lopez simply does not. It's the truth. The only reason that Lopez was able to fight Penalosa relentlessly like that was because Pen was too small to defend against him. Marquez will be in danger for the first six rounds or so against Lopez, but if Lopez doesn't end it early and lets it go deep I honestly believe Rafa will take him in deep waters and drown him.

If you look at Lopez's fight against Mtwaga you could see Lopez was gassed as ****. And toward the end people talk about how much heart he showed. I didn't see it that way. He clinched and bought time and went on the retreat. Lopez is one of those guys that has been fed softies his whole career and often times those type of guys don't perservere through wars and battles.

The difference between Valero and Lopez is Lopez is alive and well.

Yeah, Rafa is definitely overrated.

He was just the first man to beat Marc Johnson (a southpaw) in 10 years and then went on to be the first to knock him out too. Marc Johnson being on P4P lists when it wasn't even fashionable to have fighters under 135 on P4P lists means nothing.

Marquez only knocked out an undefeated Tim Austin making like his 10th defense of a title. Tim Austin (another southpaw) was just a top bantamweight for a few years.

I would mention Mabuza, Pastrana, and Vazquez, but they are all overrated.

You're right Rafa is overrated, Lopez has proved himself much more by beating De Leon, Penalosa, Luevano, and Mtagwa.

How many times did Mtagwa get knocked out before coming close to stopping Lopez?

Not to mention that Israel Vazquez is highly overrated himself. He doesn't have any good wins over Oscar Larios and Jhonny Gonzalez (The dude can't even spell his name right. He's obviously ****)