The Circus that is camp Pacquiao

[Chuckguy]

Nevermind that this thread was just another in a long line of threads posted by *****s to discredit Pac on things that have nothing to do with actual boxing. I think brining up Floyds camp is a prefectly reasonable response.

and with this Pistol loses all credability
you dumb truck!

Im a known mayweather hater smart guy
ask Larry xxxx and Coach Webb and Horus and all others

I was just curious as to why pac allows his whole camp to say ****
just keep your mouths shut and let the Bob do his Job

[Tamis!]

Nevermind that this thread was just another in a long line of threads posted by *****s to discredit Pac on things that have nothing to do with actual boxing. I think brining up Floyds camp is a prefectly reasonable response.

Let 'em think what they want man.

And Chuckguy's no Floyd stan mate.

[Eaner0919]

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of a ***** calling Pac's camp a circus.

That is all.

fair enough if this was started to **** on Manny cool by me

I just like discussing the topic at hand without the biases is all

[The Big Dunn]

um 700k PPV buys is not low.

why in the world would HBO do a 24/7 between Manny and a literal unknown fighter?

why is Bob responsible for Lamp's being crazy?

Bob cannot fight for Clottey how was he to know Clottey would clam up that bad?

IMO Bob did really well with bringing this as an event. He had a large turnout, good PPV buys considering the opponent Manny had, and a groundswell of doing this in other stadiums

earner:

When your previous fight does 1.25 mil I would say it is. They would invest the money to do 24/7 to help raise the ppv#'s purchased.

I think Bob would do anything to protect his top draw. Bob wouldn't of allowed Manny anywhere near Clottey if he thought Clottey would or could win. The end result was a horrible fight that most people felt was a glorified sparring session.

Respect your point but it seems naive. Look at it like this Bob had 51,000 fans at Texas Stadium. The live gate was less than 16k fans in Vegas. Also, Bob couldn't have the visual of an empty stadium. I think he had to give away alot of seats or sold cheap tix and let people move down.

Bob made less money with Pac Clottey across the board. It didn't raise Pac's profile nor did it give him a platform to look good.

[Twako]

i dont know wtf some ppl here think is wrong. reporters try to interview ppl around pac since they cant get to pac all the time. these ppl just speak their opinions on how they feel about pac next fight or this and that. they're not being interviewed for negotiation purposes.

[Twako]

earner:

When your previous fight does 1.25 mil I would say it is. They would invest the money to do 24/7 to help raise the ppv#'s purchased.

I think Bob would do anything to protect his top draw. Bob wouldn't of allowed Manny anywhere near Clottey if he thought Clottey would or could win. The end result was a horrible fight that most people felt was a glorified sparring session.

Respect your point but it seems naive. Look at it like this Bob had 51,000 fans at Texas Stadium. The live gate was less than 16k fans in Vegas. Also, Bob couldn't have the visual of an empty stadium. I think he had to give away alot of seats or sold cheap tix and let people move down.

Bob made less money with Pac Clottey across the board. It didn't raise Pac's profile nor did it give him a platform to look good.

dude, clottey's only known to the diehard boxing fans. then general public or any casual fan dont even know the guy. he's not even that big in ghana and there's not a big ghana boxinig fanbase here in the US.

cotto has a huge puerto rican fanbase.

700K is very big if you're pulling it almost by yourself.

[pistol whip]

and with this Pistol loses all credability
you dumb truck!

Im a known mayweather hater smart guy
ask Larry xxxx and Coach Webb and Horus and all others

I was just curious as to why pac allows his whole camp to say ****
just keep your mouths shut and let the Bob do his Job

ooops oh well you fooled me partner.

[pistol whip]

earner:

When your previous fight does 1.25 mil I would say it is. They would invest the money to do 24/7 to help raise the ppv#'s purchased.

I think Bob would do anything to protect his top draw. Bob wouldn't of allowed Manny anywhere near Clottey if he thought Clottey would or could win. The end result was a horrible fight that most people felt was a glorified sparring session.

Respect your point but it seems naive. Look at it like this Bob had 51,000 fans at Texas Stadium. The live gate was less than 16k fans in Vegas. Also, Bob couldn't have the visual of an empty stadium. I think he had to give away alot of seats or sold cheap tix and let people move down.

Bob made less money with Pac Clottey across the board. It didn't raise Pac's profile nor did it give him a platform to look good.

If bob is protecting Pac then why the Oscar fight? That was a huge risk on paper and nobody gave Manny much of a chance to win myself included. Seriously all this effort to discredit a fighter who is hailed by the most respected boxing experts on the planet as the number 1 fighter in the world just so you can argue the point that Floyd deserves more money?

Seriously are you Floyds ***ing agent? Who cares who makes more money because I have said this once and I will say it again none of us are gonna pay 59.99$ to watch Manny and Floyd count their money.

[Chuckguy]

ooops oh well you fooled me partner.

WHy cause I focused on one particular camp?
I know Floyd Sr and Uncle Rog say some ****** ish but they arent saying Floyd is gonna fight this person then the next

My point being pistol
Manny should tell them to stfu and let bob do his thing
if a person interviews them and asks their opinion fine
but they are going out of their way to talk **** and
blow off the biggest money fight in the history of boxing (potentially)
they are acting like managers and advisors and promoters when they arent

if you want to discuss the *********** that is the mayweather family then go
ahead and make a thread
I will definately post in it

[The Big Dunn]

Wrong Clotty was a non entity! Mosely while not a PPV darling was a much bigger star than Clotty plus the match up on paper looked a bit more even between Floyd and Shane.

Pac vs Cotto was a much more compareable fight and both fights did about the same at the live gate and on PPV.

I really don't see how Floyd got any real leverage especially when golden boy went on and on about how this fight was gonna do 3 million PPV's and only did half.

Really you are comparing apples to oranges here.

IMO it Doesn't matter. In both fights the A side sold the fight not the opponent. Cotto beat Shane and May shane did as much as Manny cotto. Floyd went from 1.1 mil to 1.25 mil. Manny went from 1.25 mil to 700k. Don't you think that had some impact?

Also floyd has been off 2 yrs and come back and sold 2.35 mil ppvs. Manny has been the highest profile fighter in the world. been in the highest profile fights and his last 2 ppvs are 1.95 mil. Thats 400,000 x $49.95= $180 mil. Thats huge money dude!

I may be wrong about leverage but think about this. Manny has publicly come off his stance about OST. from none to 14 days. Same time. Money has publicly made a stronger stance.