The Circus that is camp Pacquiao

[Tamis!]

The point isn't who is in the camp but what they are saying and doing. Criticize floyd sr. and roger all you want but they are playing their cards right.

The thing is pistol makes a good point. Based on their past, most expect floyds camp to be a circus. But Manny's camp doesn't have the same cast of charachters so you expect a more controlled atmosphere.

Disagree. They have contemporaries on the other side of the fence.

Mayweather Sr. - Michael Koncz (he gulps rugby everyday) get's a punch every now and then due to ******ity
Roger - Alex Ariza
Ellerbe - Roach

Pretty much even!

Floyd has a mind of his own!

[The Big Dunn]

Are you seriously comparing Clotty vs Pac to Shane vs Floyd?

Respectfully, after the BS you pulled yesterday trying to take my serious question about top ranks matchmaking and try and paint me as a racist I'm tempted to not respond to this post.

That said again check the context of the posts. I thought after both fights were finished floyd gained the negotiating leverage and his credibility was increased in the media. I thought Bob played his cards wrong because floyd was able to prove every allegation about him, scarredto fight big ww, ducker, etc. false with his big win.

And his initial purse $22.5 mil was significantly bigger than Manny's $13.5 mil. I think it just changed perceptions of each fighter to a degeree.

[The Big Dunn]

Tamis:

I se your point. Koncz may not be ****** like Roger but he is a tool. Freddy just comes off as if Bob and Koncz completely keep him out of the loop.

[Tamis!]

Tamis:

I se your point. Koncz may not be ****** like Roger but he is a tool. Freddy just comes off as if Bob and Koncz completely keep him out of the loop.

Absolutely agree.

Too bad Manny don't sense it, what more now how busy he is outside boxing.

Roach just can't help but speak his mind off anything coz in reality he's just a trainer, It's scumbag Arum running the show, Koncz basically has that adviser title but really just cooks breakfast and a punching bag for Manny's kids and Manny's actor-friends.

[The Big Dunn]

Absolutely agree.

Too bad Manny don't sense it, what more now how busy he is outside boxing.

Roach just can't help but speak his mind off anything coz in reality he's just a trainer, It's scumbag Arum running the show, Koncz basically has that adviser title but really just cooks breakfast and a punching bag for Manny's kids and Manny's actor-friends.

Yeah I get your point. I'm just laughing at certain things I think are brilliant.

For example, there is all this talk about OST and PED's leading up to the Mosley fight. So floyd brings out his "security team" that all look like they eat steroids all day like M&M's.

I also like how floyds camp all seem to stick to the same message while Manny's camp seems in different directions.

[Eaner0919]

The choice really is, up to the eye of the beholder, of who's more of a circus in Team Pac and The Mayweathers. For me they both are!

It's clear who's the bigger mental institution though...

well isn't THIS thread seemingly solely about Manny and his camp?

I mean why need for the comparison at all?

[ModernTalking]

Circus camp > jealous camp

[Eaner0919]

True but Bob ****ed up big time when he signed Manny v. Clottey and forced the May SSM fight. From the low ppv#'s,to the fact HBO didn't do a 24/7, to the criticism lampley recieved for the **** **** crap, clottey not punching. It looked like Bob staged a sparring session.

Floyd ssm had a larger live gate in a smaller arena, more ppv'ssold, a 24/& backing from HBO, and put to rest Bob's 5 month argument that floyd was ducking bigger fighters. Floyd gained the negotiating leverage and the edge in the media.

um 700k PPV buys is not low.

why in the world would HBO do a 24/7 between Manny and a literal unknown fighter?

why is Bob responsible for Lamp's being crazy?

Bob cannot fight for Clottey how was he to know Clottey would clam up that bad?

IMO Bob did really well with bringing this as an event. He had a large turnout, good PPV buys considering the opponent Manny had, and a groundswell of doing this in other stadiums

[Tamis!]

well isn't THIS thread seemingly solely about Manny and his camp?

I mean why need for the comparison at all?

You're right! My bad! Team Pacquiao is a circus, and they should be like Floyd, a man of his own, Just like I said on my first post! Just answering further questions.

Happy now?

[Eaner0919]

You're right! My bad! Team Pacquiao is a circus, and they should be like Floyd, a man of his own, Just like I said on my first post! Just answering further questions.

Happy now?

relax Cujo don't get your thong too twisted I posed a question

again why are you comparing two camps when we were talking about one?