Liston or foreman if ali was not around.

[Vadrigar.]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I dont know if your being this dumb on purpose but


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[Left Hook Tua]

Gotta love all the Ali fans here trying to make it sound like Ali had anything to do, sorry I could have be those nights, he was clearly paid off. So no, Ali wouldnt have changed Listons career at all. As for Foreman's? it was just a matter of time until people realized he was an arm puncher with not stamina. Similar to Tyson, once the formula was figured out, he became average. Sorry, it would have taken any bad night from big george or any competitor who wouldnt have backed down to end him at that point. Sosnowski would have beat the George Foreman Ali beat.

mate , you need to learn something about boxing.

if liston threw a fight , it was the rematch with ali.

he just got beat up the 1st time around against ali. there was no throwing a fight there.

[Left Hook Tua]

I believe that in his prime, he'd have been able to handle Frazier comfortably, as well as Foreman, being equally as tough and strong, as well as being a better boxer. He got a raw deal from the boxing public and the commissions.

Just my opinion.

i think a past prime liston could beat frazier imo.


only 3 guys imo can beat liston prime vs. prime.

ali , holmes and lewis.

ali is obvious. holmes had a good chin , tough and had a great jab too. lewis is too big and strong. (liston would need a lucky punch to land)

marciano , holyfield , tyson , frazier , norton , johnson , dempsey and even louis would lose to liston prime for prime.

[Vadrigar.]

That's a great picture Liston and his freakishly long reach, his arms just seem to go on and on.

How much was it again?

[NChristo]

How much was it again?

84" and he was only 6 foot, huge reach.

[Vadrigar.]

84" and he was only 6 foot, huge reach.

that is what I call freakish now.

let me tell you something though: Jack Johnson was the Ali of his time for sure!!

I wouldn't mind seeing ALi vs johnson in a pre fight trash talking contest. I think it would be a draw.