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Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. (1992) vs. Manny Pacquiao (2009) @ 140?

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  • #71
    Originally posted by edgarg View Post
    I ALWAYS keep forgetting about Frank Randall.
    LOL who couldn't sometimes!

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    • #72
      Originally posted by ghost deini View Post
      yeah but still guys like meldrick and pernell completely outboxed him with the power pacquiao has aswell he end up being stopped
      When the *** has Chavez ever been stopped in his prime? DLH stopped an over the hill Chavez, in his prime nobody beat him except Whitaker and Randall who he avenged.

      Also, I wouldn't say Meldrick Taylor was out boxing him that bad, because he was out pointing him but was receiving a beating in the process.

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      • #73
        Pac beats everyone 106-147.

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        • #74
          Some of you guys need to actually watch tapes of Chavez and not just highlights. The dude was not just a brawler like most of you think. Just watch some of his fights and see how well he cuts off the ring, counters, and slips punches.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by edgarg View Post
            YOU bring up some very good points which I can augment a little. Chavez was NOTED for his body punching, and the KO's that Manny suffered, were I believe, by body punches
            No, it was to the head. Video is deceptive because of Pac's posture.
            Furthermore, Pac was draining to make weight.

            Originally posted by edgarg View Post
            Around the Camacho time, Chavez was close to 80-0 and his chin was impervious to assault. I can't believe that manny, even at his best, could beat THAT Chavez.
            Agreed, Chavez isn't getting KTFO.
            However, if judging is honest, Pac has a very good chance at UD.
            Fast as he is, JCC can be timed (see previously cited opponents),
            in a conservative manner. Pac can't always be timed, because he
            throws from weird angles and the wrong posture. JCC will take a
            cumulative beating. That Wing Chun-esque D won't work vs. Pac,
            and his face will swell, reducing his vision for offense.

            Again, if the fight takes place in Chavez' glory days, with Pac an
            unknown, Chavez takes an unfair SD. If it takes place today, with
            JCC an unknown, Pac may get an RSC, likely a UD, but no real KO.

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            • #76
              Though Julio was born with a cinder block for a head I still think the combination of speed, southpaw stance, and punches in bunches would stop JCC to a screeching halt.

              Manny by TKO.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
                When the *** has Chavez ever been stopped in his prime? DLH stopped an over the hill Chavez, in his prime nobody beat him except Whitaker and Randall who he avenged.

                Also, I wouldn't say Meldrick Taylor was out boxing him that bad, because he was out pointing him but was receiving a beating in the process.
                You consider that avenging a lost? No offense man, but come on.

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                • #78
                  Manny kills him.

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                  • #79
                    Pacquiao doesn't win any Fantasy fights on these forums.
                    he's one-dimensional and easy work for any opponent, according to the NSB population.

                    Pacquiao fought the best Mexican fighters available in his weight and era. Lost one fight to a prime Champion, and had trouble with a Prime Marquez (who he still knocked down 3 times in the 1st).

                    Camacho is NOT EVEN CLOSE to being Manny Pacquiao. The mexican style of brawling and walking into punches and take some-to give some style is perfect for Manny.

                    Honestly, Manny wins.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by RockyB View Post
                      Pacquiao, too much speed mixed with good power.
                      Chavez doesnt have the best defence so Pacquiao would be landing alot
                      much like De La Hoya did.
                      Dream on.........when Chavez fought Oscar it was just for a payday, he was well finished by that time. You should have a look on youtube at some Chavez fights when he was in his prime, and you will see that Manny P would not be able to stand up against him. He would be overwhelmed.

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