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  • baracuda
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    #131
    Originally posted by Red_Menace
    It's their word against WADA. Seriously, do you trust these two random doctors or do you trust the entire world-wide scientific community behind the world anti-doping code. There's only one right answer to this question, and it should be obvious.
    you mean them doctors words vs tygart's (****ing lawyer)...and that settled it then...the right people won...........

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    • IMDAZED
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      #132
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      Out of all the sports that are tested with OST you don't think one dirty test in 8 years is insanely low? Lol, you're a real joker!!
      You think OST has caught one person in eight years. Who's the real joker again?

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        #133
        Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
        so you should be crying about all fights that don't have OST.

        Why are you focused on just one?

        Because you don't give a **** about the cleanliness of the sport, you want to see Pac convicted before a fight gets made.


        who says i am focused on one.........i have made reference to Floyd and Pac maybe once in the last 30 posts......i am o record here as saying they should outsource the testing to USADA, i have commented on how they could easily pay for it, and it will work the same way OST does in every other sport......but you seem to think nothing is better than something....that's you argument right?? Nothing is better than something!!!!

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        • JAB5239
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          #134
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Now Marion Jones aged quicker.
          Did I say that, clown? Just tell me, do all athletes age the same, yes or no?

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            #135
            Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
            so you should be crying about all fights that don't have OST.

            Why are you focused on just one?

            Because you don't give a **** about the cleanliness of the sport, you want to see Pac convicted before a fight gets made.

            if you are a fan and say you are for OST, but unwilling to test everyone in boxing, then you ain't really for OST.

            if you are a boxer advocating OST, then every fight on your undercard better have OST your you're just bull****ting.

            if you are a promotional company and you say OST is beneficial and you only test one fighter in your stable, you ain't really serious about OSt.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #136
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Did I say that, clown? Just tell me, do all athletes age the same, yes or no?
              Just tell you? Aren't you the same person who suggested that? Sorry to use your logic, I know it can get confusing sometimes.

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                #137
                Originally posted by check hook
                who says i am focused on one.........i have made reference to Floyd and Pac maybe once in the last 30 posts......i am o record here as saying they should outsource the testing to USADA, i have commented on how they could easily pay for it, and it will work the same way OST does in every other sport......but you seem to think nothing is better than something....that's you argument right?? Nothing is better than something!!!!
                The NSAC stopped testing altogether?


                No, there is something.

                But as it is, I don't see you or anyone else bitching about any of the fights we've had this year without OST.


                You're focused on one fight.

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                • baracuda
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by check hook
                  who says i am focused on one.........i have made reference to Floyd and Pac maybe once in the last 30 posts......i am o record here as saying they should outsource the testing to USADA, i have commented on how they could easily pay for it, and it will work the same way OST does in every other sport......but you seem to think nothing is better than something....that's you argument right?? Nothing is better than something!!!!
                  Voy, former Chief Medical Office of the USOC, said current blood testing as to HGH is "ureliable and impractical."

                  As far as EPO testing, Voy said, "I'm of the opinion that EPO is not a performance enhancer in boxing or that it gives you more endurace although that is the perception."

                  That was theme Dr. Watson chimed in on, saying, "I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary.

                  so youre more knowledgable than theses doctors now?.....lol

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                  • Red_Menace
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Johnny Chingas
                    so you should be crying about all fights that don't have OST.

                    Why are you focused on just one?

                    Because you don't give a **** about the cleanliness of the sport, you want to see Pac convicted before a fight gets made.
                    Yeah, people should be crying about all those fights, including yourself. You don't care about the cleanliness of the sport, all you care about is Pac. This works both ways. You're as blinded as anyone.

                    Like it was mentioned earlier, with the culture of sport today, with so many cheaters around, the easiest way to turn people against you is by refusing to participate in testing for performance enhancers. Pac dug his own grave when he refused a simple set of tests that would have earned him somewhere in the range of $25-$40 million dollars. That's why some people are pissed off at him.

                    For me, I'm skeptical of just about everyone. Floyd could be juicing. Everyone should be tested.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      You think OST has caught one person in eight years. Who's the real joker again?

                      Hey, you're the one who think Pac is on HGH. I can't help it they've only recorded 1 dirty test for HGH in 8 years. Obviously your superior testing has more question marks that you originally believed or want to believe. Don't cry over it.

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