Urine TKOs blood in Nevada boxing drug testing debate

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #111
    Originally posted by carts
    why do you still watch boxing in vegas (except floydies ***** fights cuz of osdt and others if any) if you think this commission is ****ty and flawed??? hypocrites????
    Exactly.

    An even better question is,


    why aren't they upset at all the fights going on without better testing,

    if they want a cleaner sport?

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    • shadeyfizzle
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      #112
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      The fighter knowing when the cutoff will take place is the issue, that's why.
      what will it matter if there is still a urine test every day thereafter??? You're saying an athlete would load up on 1 of the only 2 substances urine testing doesnt detect within 14days of a fight when it would have very minimal to no benefit whatsoever because training camp is winding down anyway???

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      • check hook
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        #113
        Originally posted by Red_Menace
        This guy has to be the only scientist in the world that thinks EPO does not benefit endurance athletes. Maybe that's why he's the former Chief Medical Officer and not the current one. Oh yeah, Tygart works for the USADA which was formed by the olympic committee and works with the united states olympic committee. So, who's the expert? And really, all USADA does is implement the WADA code. So, who's right, this one guy or the entire world-wide scientific community responsible for the code? I'm going to take a stab in the dark at this one and side with WADA.

        Maybe that guy should tell all the Tour de Farce riders EPO and blood transfusions don't work

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        • JAB5239
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          #114
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Marion Jones was never successful using the standards that the USADA uses today. Once the current protocol was in place, her highest finish was 4th place.

          She couldn't have gotten old, right?

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            #115
            Originally posted by check hook
            provide their names please???


            also i'm not against urine testing.......as long as it's random and they test for EPO.............


            Voy, former Chief Medical Office of the USOC, said current blood testing as to HGH is "ureliable and impractical."

            As far as EPO testing, Voy said, "I'm of the opinion that EPO is not a performance enhancer in boxing or that it gives you more endurace although that is the perception."

            That was theme Dr. Watson chimed in on, saying, "I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary.

            so youre more knowledgable than theses doctors now?.....lol

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            • Pullcounter
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              #116
              cut off dates defeat the purpose of randomization, but cutting off the blood testing after 18 days doesn't seem very random.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #117
                Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                what will it matter if there is still a urine test every day thereafter??? You're saying an athlete would load up on 1 of the only 2 substances urine testing doesnt detect within 14days of a fight when it would have very minimal to no benefit whatsoever because training camp is winding down anyway???
                According to Manny Pacquiao, training camp is not winding down then. In fact, some of your hardest sparring takes place in that second to last week. So that's false.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Listen to this f*ggot squeal.
                  Aww, somebodies feelings are hurt!

                  1 dirty test in 8 years!

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by JAB5239

                    She couldn't have gotten old, right?
                    Using this logic, Manny Pacquiao should be getting worse. Not moving up and stopping welters 60 fights and 15 years in. See what happens when you try to be witty? F*g.

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                    • Red_Menace
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      Voy, former Chief Medical Office of the USOC, said current blood testing as to HGH is "ureliable and impractical."

                      As far as EPO testing, Voy said, "I'm of the opinion that EPO is not a performance enhancer in boxing or that it gives you more endurace although that is the perception."

                      That was theme Dr. Watson chimed in on, saying, "I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary.

                      so youre more knowledgable than theses doctors now?.....lol
                      It's their word against WADA. Seriously, do you trust these two random doctors or do you trust the entire world-wide scientific community behind the world anti-doping code. There's only one right answer to this question, and it should be obvious.

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