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  • Super_Lightweight
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    #21
    hmm

    I don't see Roy being able to KO even the washed up Holyfield.
    Easy. Toney didn't even land hard when Holy went down, Holy was just exhausted from being old and sorry. Holy was shot. That win means nothing man, absolutely nothing. Jirov was the best prime beast Toney fought. You should brag on that.

    Roy rocked Ruiz and almost put hm down in the 5th or 6th round. Watch the replay and listen to the reactuion of the crowd and commentators and look at Ruiz WOBBLE. Roy hurt Ruiz as much and maybe more than Toney.

    Obviously we will continue to disagree...oh well.

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    • oldgringo
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      #22
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
      Easy. Toney didn't even land hard when Holy went down, Holy was just exhausted from being old and sorry. Holy was shot. That win means nothing man, absolutely nothing. Jirov was the best prime beast Toney fought. You should brag on that.

      Roy rocked Ruiz and almost put hm down in the 5th or 6th round. Watch the replay and listen to the reactuion of the crowd and commentators and look at Ruiz WOBBLE. Roy hurt Ruiz as much and maybe more than Toney.

      Obviously we will continue to disagree...oh well.

      Yeah well we can agree that Hoyl was washed up and all, but Toney did really beat the living **** out of him, and he hurt him in that last round with a big bodyshot. I know that the win means very little and didn't mean to imply that it did.

      Yeah well agree to disagree. We can agree on the fact that both guys owned Ruiz at least.

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      • AintGottaClue
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        #23
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        You obviously give rounds to people who just throw a lot of meaningless punches and don't land them. Seriously, you must have scored the DLH/Sturm fight for DLH in that case. Toney was landing the better punches and actually I believe he outlanded Jirov in power shots.

        I had it 6-5 or 6-4-1 Toney going into the 12 and then Toney clearly won that round so yeah...

        id expect to hear that coming from the biggest toney fan lmao

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #24
          Originally posted by oldgringo
          Roy Jones beat an unmotivated Toney who wasn't nearly as dangerous as he was when he was really on for a fight. He also beat a much younger Bernard Hopkins who was not on top of his game mentally. Both were still very good wins however.

          James Toneys best wins were against maybe the best fighter in the world (at the time) and the legitimate p4p #1 fighter in Michael Nunn and the Cruiserweight king in Vassiliy Jirov. Nunn was 36-0 and could do it all. Great fluid boxing skills, a good chin, power in both hands, threw punches in combination behind the jab well, great footwork, etc. His win over Jirov was so great because Jirov was a top 10 p4p guy at the time, he was avoided like the plague, he was an insane body puncher with a great workrate, and he was as tough as nails. Outside of that, Toney has beaten McCallum x2, Barkley, Williams, Holyfield, Littles...Jones has beaten Tarver, Malinga, Pazienza, Griffin, Hill, Woods.

          I think that James has taken on the tougher competition personally.
          You nailed it on the head, brother!

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          • DiegoFuego
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            #25
            I had Toney beating Jirov by a wide margin. Just because some rounds are close doesn't mean you give one here to Jirov and one here to Toney. Truth is there were a LOT of close rounds, but Toney was the one winning them.

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            • GROCERYGETTERS
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              #26
              Toney fought better opposition. Jones just has the style to beat Toney. Weight drained or not.

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