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Originally posted by Kilrain View PostLOL at you supporting Mayweather's remark that if his PPV wi Shane did more than Manny he'd ask for a bigger split. Duh, he was fighting Mosley, of course it was gonna do more buys than Pac fighting an unknown (to the mainstream public) Clottey, who 99 per cent of people gave no chance. That is a shameless sidestep by Mayweather. If Pac had fought Shane he'd have undoubtedly did similar numbers, he did almost 1.3 wi Cotto. Floyd is a little b1tch
it also tied manny's highest fight to date....the one with oscar.
floyd is asking for more, b/c he does better numbers. that's not an opinion.
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View Posto.k dude but just realise that these are the 2 best in the sport. this deserves parity. The only stumbling block was the cut of date now floyd wants it pushed back further. You can see who is trying to make the fight and who is making things more difficult than it should be.
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Originally posted by FLY TY View Postcome on man.....
cotto works with arum. floyd doesn't do business with arum. look at the trouble they're having now. fact is, there was never a cotto fight offered, or negotiated, so anybody who says floyd ducked cotto, doesn't know what they hell they're talking about.
floyd wanted a fight with oscar, arum didn't want to do it, so he offered floyd margarito. floyd and arum split, and floyd ended up getting a fight with bladomir, for more money.....followed by the fight with oscar.
ummmmm, floyd took the 14-day thing off the table in FEBRUARY bro. he hasn't decided to do it now, b/c manny is accepting it. it's the other way around.....manny is accepting the 14-days now, because it is not being offered. in other words, they are trying to give the illusion that they're trying to make the fight, when they're really not (TOP RANK).
apparently it's working.
Lol at u supporting Floyd's decision to fight Baldomir cause he'd make more money. We not meant to be boxing fans? Not finance guys. Who cares how much he made. This is supposed to be a gladitorial sport. Besides, if Floyd and Marg fought no doubt Pretty Boy would have wanted a cut of the PPV and THUS HE WOULD HAVE made more for Tony than he made for Baldy as all fans wanted to see this clash. Mayweather saw a bigger Castillo and looked the other way
I dont care when Floyd took it off the table. If he wants to make the fight what's wrong with 14 days, it was ok back in Jan? You see: Floyd's fans diss Manny for changing his stance, but not Floyd for changing his. 1 minute 14 is ok. Next, no. He knew Manny would NEVER accept 0 days so that's why he's sticking to 0 now. It's pretty obvious who's trying to make this fight happen. Manny is the only guy who has made a compromise, for the fans, for all involved, to assure the finalisation of this fight. Mayweather is denying you fans a great fight. Don't you resent it?
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Originally posted by Kilrain View PostFact is this, bro. During Floyd's time at welterweight Cotto and Margarito looked like beasts. Those were the fights every1 wanted. Instead Floyd fought Baldomir (who ALFONSO FRICKIN GOMEZ beat!!!), Judah (who'd just lost to Baldy) and a 34 year old Oscar. Don't hide your lame ass argument behind 'Floyd doesn't like Arum'. Who gives a ****! Imagine Ali ducked Foreman or Frazier cause he didnt like their promoters? Mayweather's fanboys are shameless c unts
Lol at u supporting Floyd's decision to fight Baldomir cause he'd make more money. We not meant to be boxing fans? Not finance guys. Who cares how much he made. This is supposed to be a gladitorial sport. Besides, if Floyd and Marg fought no doubt Pretty Boy would have wanted a cut of the PPV and THUS HE WOULD HAVE made more for Tony than he made for Baldy as all fans wanted to see this clash. Mayweather saw a bigger Castillo and looked the other way
I dont care when Floyd took it off the table. If he wants to make the fight what's wrong with 14 days, it was ok back in Jan? You see: Floyd's fans diss Manny for changing his stance, but not Floyd for changing his. 1 minute 14 is ok. Next, no. He knew Manny would NEVER accept 0 days so that's why he's sticking to 0 now. It's pretty obvious who's trying to make this fight happen. Manny is the only guy who has made a compromise, for the fans, for all involved, to assure the finalisation of this fight. Mayweather is denying you fans a great fight. Don't you resent it?
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Originally posted by FLY TY View Postcome on man.....
cotto works with arum. floyd doesn't do business with arum. look at the trouble they're having now. fact is, there was never a cotto fight offered, or negotiated, so anybody who says floyd ducked cotto, doesn't know what they hell they're talking about.
floyd wanted a fight with oscar, arum didn't want to do it, so he offered floyd margarito. floyd and arum split, and floyd ended up getting a fight with bladomir, for more money.....followed by the fight with oscar.
ummmmm, floyd took the 14-day thing off the table in FEBRUARY bro. he hasn't decided to do it now, b/c manny is accepting it. it's the other way around.....manny is accepting the 14-days now, because it is not being offered. in other words, they are trying to give the illusion that they're trying to make the fight, when they're really not (TOP RANK).
apparently it's working.Originally posted by FLY TY View Postit was obviously gonna do more than clottey....the point is, it did more than manny's fight with cotto too, who is also a bigger draw than mosley.
it also tied manny's highest fight to date....the one with oscar.
floyd is asking for more, b/c he does better numbers. that's not an opinion.
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Originally posted by Kilrain View PostFact is this, bro. During Floyd's time at welterweight Cotto and Margarito looked like beasts. Those were the fights every1 wanted. Instead Floyd fought Baldomir (who ALFONSO FRICKIN GOMEZ beat!!!), Judah (who'd just lost to Baldy) and a 34 year old Oscar. Don't hide your lame ass argument behind 'Floyd doesn't like Arum'. Who gives a ****! Imagine Ali ducked Foreman or Frazier cause he didnt like their promoters? Mayweather's fanboys are shameless c unts
Lol at u supporting Floyd's decision to fight Baldomir cause he'd make more money. We not meant to be boxing fans? Not finance guys. Who cares how much he made. This is supposed to be a gladitorial sport. Besides, if Floyd and Marg fought no doubt Pretty Boy would have wanted a cut of the PPV and THUS HE WOULD HAVE made more for Tony than he made for Baldy as all fans wanted to see this clash. Mayweather saw a bigger Castillo and looked the other way
I dont care when Floyd took it off the table. If he wants to make the fight what's wrong with 14 days, it was ok back in Jan? You see: Floyd's fans diss Manny for changing his stance, but not Floyd for changing his. 1 minute 14 is ok. Next, no. He knew Manny would NEVER accept 0 days so that's why he's sticking to 0 now. It's pretty obvious who's trying to make this fight happen. Manny is the only guy who has made a compromise, for the fans, for all involved, to assure the finalisation of this fight. Mayweather is denying you fans a great fight. Don't you resent it?
floyd stated numerous times, he fights for money.....he's a prize fighter.
in other words, you won't understand his fight choices, unless you understand him. i'm a fan of the sport, but i won't tell another man, "dont do this for more money, instead do this for less money, b/c i want you to."
and floyd's and arum's problems with each other are well-documented bro. it's a fact they don't do business with each other. floyd doesn't consider himself just a fighter, he considers himself just as much a business man too. understand that, and you won't be so upset when you look at the things he does.
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Originally posted by Kilrain View PostIf he is to get more, I don't see that it should be 60. 55 at most (because he has did slightly better PPV) Manny-Cotto did nearly 1.3 which is more than Mayweather-Marquez did. The only time Floyd's beat that is when he fought Oscar and Shane, correct? The Shane-May promotion was assisted by the fact that Shane was American, coming off a huge win over Margarito and 24/7, whereas Pac-Cotto was perceived as being a case of Cotto, having struggled with Clottey after an almighty beating off Tony, being fed to the lion Pac. Perception, yeah? I can see Floyd asking for 51, 51 per cent. 55 AT MOST. No more. He doesn't deserve 60-40, no fckin way
i agree tho, 55-45 is right.
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Ultimately, anyone who supporting Pacquaio's stance on this issue is supporting a stance that Pac needs a window where he'll be liberty to cheat and get away with it if he so chooses. Everything else is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if Mayweather is scared of Pac. It doesn't matter if Mayweather is looking for a way to avoid the fight. It doesn't matter if Mayweather is the biggest coward to walk the face of the Earth. None of that has anything to do with Pac requesting a window where he'll be immune to strict testing for illegal drugs, and that's wrong anyway you look at.
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