Comments Thread For: USADA Head Throws Water on Pacquiao's 14-Day Window

[Chip Rudd]

so whats the reasoning from mayweathers side cus i cant see it and i keep asking them to refute the fact that pac(with evidence since 2005) has stuck to 30-24-14 to preserve his stamina,fighting form and the test have been proven as ped-proof SO THERE'S NO NEED TO STICK TO 0 DAYS.. CAN U TELL ME cus the *****s wont answer why mayweather has a reason...


Is there a reason that has to do with the drugs test?? HES JUST DUCKING RIGHT?

Honestly man, if mayweather believes that Pac is on Ped's why can't he ask for 0 days if he believes it? Although I think he's an idiot outside the ring he's allowed to think whatever he wants. Just like if Pac were to say Mayweather was on Ped's, he's entitled to believe whatever he wants. Now about the Pac blood testing excuses, I would believe them if he was saying that from the beginning. Remember when Pac lost to Morales the first time? When he lost they were saying all kinds of crap, from blaming it on the gloves to even saying that it was Pac's socks that were itching him during the fight and hindered him. Come on now man, his socks!!! Now it's the blood that was drawn all of a sudden? Now onto Floyd. His bs excuse on why he's pusing for the test is that he wants to clean the sport up. No it's not, it's because he thinks Pac is taking something. If he would of come out from the beginning and just said that then maybe he could get more respect on this blood testing thing. I'm not a PED expert by any means but i've heard doctors say that you can cycle off of certain things within 14 days, maybe that's why mayweather is sticking to 0 days now. Honestly, since Shane Mosley agreed and went through with the tests it actually gave Mayweather more ground because it showed that two clean fighters had no problem taking tests. Had Mosley not agreed it would be a whole different story. The thing is that through the previous negotiations neither side has shown much consistency in what they have said. Forget Mayweather and forget Pac for a second. Now, what is the problem with random testing? Cause honestly(even though an idiot brought it up) this random testing thing is bigger than the both of them now that many actual boxers have stated that improved testing is good for the sport. Heck, even MMA fighters are behind this testing. Imagine that!!

[PAC-NATION]

probably because no boxing comission has adopted this form of testing, as a part of regular procedure.

right now, tygart only has so much power. if both fighters agree in contract, then he can do his job. how the hell is he supposed to start testing boxers year round, when his testing hasn't yet been accepted as the "norm" in any major sport yet?

Well if they aren't tested year round his test are compromised. Hell when they first did the testing all those cut off dates were compromises as well. Why didn't he say anything then and why does he only say selective things when doing these interviews. I tell you why? because he has an agenda that is why

margarito is suspended.........

and LOL at arum putting pacquiao in the ring with a slick boxer, who's also fast and a lot bigger.

LMAO!!!!! Pac having problems with a slick boxer, that the first time I ever heard that garbage.

[FLY TY]

If floyd really wanted this fight why would he make negotiations even tougher than the first time around?

because he was being generous the first time around, and in the end, the other side killed the fight, and pretty much blamed everything on him.




he's not making negotiations harder, he's just drawing a line in the sand.


he said in FEBRUARY, next time they come to the table, the 14-day thing was gonna be off the table, and the 50-50 split was also gonna be off the table.


so now, arum knows where to start, when he comes to the table for negotiations. like i said before, for them to come to the table now, wanting the old deal, when the old deal is no longer being offered, is a joke, and shows how serious they are about the fight.


arum can come out, and say he'll do everything to make the fight, but unlike a lot of ppl, i read through the BS, and tell by the guy's actions, whether or not he's seriously trying to make the fight.

[FLY TY]

Well if they aren't tested year round his test are compromised. Hell when they first did the testing all those cut off dates were compromises as well. Why didn't he say anything then and why does he only say selective things when doing these interviews. I tell you why? because he has an agenda that is why


LMAO!!!!! Pac having problems with a slick boxer, that the first time I ever heard that garbage.

when they first did what testing? what cutoff dates were compromised? i don't follow you.






name one he's beaten.


martinez is a slick, fast, counter-puncher. he can also fight at MW.


nightmare matchup for your boy.

[Twako]

so let's assume that if mosley or mayweather really went on a limb and took drugs 17days prior to the fight, would the urine tests in this period and the post fight blood test catch this?

if so, is the USADA saying urine tests 17days into the fight will have sufficed, after all they were doing blood tests before this, and will do so post fight.

or is this just a way of tygart covering up for his boo-boo of not taking blood 18days prior, now that the public knows that they didnt?

dont reply w/ "the reason it's random is you wont know when you'll get blood tested". for argument's sake, just assume that floyd or shane did take drugs 17days prior.

[fcastro1]

because he was being generous the first time around, and in the end, the other side killed the fight, and pretty much blamed everything on him.




he's not making negotiations harder, he's just drawing a line in the sand.


he said in FEBRUARY, next time they come to the table, the 14-day thing was gonna be off the table, and the 50-50 split was also gonna be off the table.


so now, arum knows where to start, when he comes to the table for negotiations. like i said before, for them to come to the table now, wanting the old deal, when the old deal is no longer being offered, is a joke, and shows how serious they are about the fight.


arum can come out, and say he'll do everything to make the fight, but unlike a lot of ppl, i read through the BS, and tell by the guy's actions, whether or not he's seriously trying to make the fight.

Just because pac was a man to step up, that gives floyd an upperhand in negotiations.all that you said right there means the fight aint happenning. That is not a fair compromise and pac wont agree. So you happy at floyds position. Do you think its right?

[PAC-NATION]

when they first did what testing? what cutoff dates were compromised? i don't follow you.

Sorry my english is bad. What I meant was when they first start negotiating and Floyd wanted a 14 day and manny wanted 24. Why didn't taggot say anythig then?

name one he's beaten.


martinez is a slick, fast, counter-puncher. he can also fight at MW.


nightmare matchup for your boy.

How is it a matchup nightmare for Manny? who has faster feet that will be able to turn him with a supposedly slick style.

BTW I will answer your question once you answer mine

[feefiflofum]

here you go buddy

http://www.examiner.com/x-21442-Sacr...ley-drug-tests

Since late 2009, drug testing has been the 'hot topic' of Boxing. The push from Floyd Mayweather Jr to have Manny Pacquiao submit to USADA drug testing has been a highly publicized and highly criticized issue. After the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight negotiations fell through, due to the disagreement on drug testing, Floyd Jr moved on to fight Shane Mosley. However, Mosley had to agree to the same drug testing demands, which he did.Over the past 3 months, the drug testing for Shane and Floyd has been 'front and center'. Unfortunately, details of the testing were limited and skewed at best. In effort to clear up the confusion and correct the inaccurate facts, USADA's Chief Executive Travis Tygart spoke with this reporter for an Examiner.com exclusive.

1) Are the test results for Floyd Mayweather Jr and Shane Mosley available to the public?

We make the results public. We are open and transparent. All of the tests prior to the fight have been reported back to us, and all were negative.. We are still waiting for post fight tests. We expect to have them any day now.
Once we have all the results, we will process the information, put it in a chart and make available for the public.

2) How long until the test results are made public?

From a processing standpoint it usually takes us a quarter. Due to the significance of this fight, we're on a quicker time table. The details should be available by the end of the month.

3) How many times were Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr tested?

Both fighters were tested 8 times each. 4 of those times were blood only. And the other four times were blood and urine.

4) Any problems with testing Floyd Mayweather Jr or Shane Mosley?

They both were fully engaged in the testing. There were absolutely no problems. Both fighters and all of their representatives were open for education. Both fighters provided all of their phone numbers and their locations. Bottom line, they were consummate professionals.

5) Any conflict with the NSAC during the testing process?

Not from our end. We agreed to share our results and we did. They received all information. We had a good and close relationship with them.

6) Any progress with boxing commissions implementing USADA drug testing?

We have had conversations with some. NSAC was going to hold a hearing to review the need of this blood testing. This sport is just coming around to realize the level of importance for blood testing.
The casinos have a great interest in level playing fields. They are overly cooperative with us because of their direct and significant financial interest in the fighters and fights.

7) What significance does blood testing provide over urine testing alone?

HGH is only detected in blood. Transfusions, certain forms of EPO, and Synthetic hemoglobin (Hboc), would provide a boxer significant performance advantages especially throughout a 12 round fight.

8) Up to how long can blood testing detect illegal substances in the body? or How long does illegal substances like steroids and HGH stay in the body?

It depends on the substance, HGH can leave the system in a few days... You can use it and it can be out of the system in a matter of a days.

9) What happens to the samples that were collected from Floyd Mayweather Jr and Shane Mosley? What's the storage process?

The collected samples are stored at our labs. They (Mayweather and Mosley) agreed to storage for up to 8 years. We can test for substances at a later time if necessary.

10) Any comments on the potential Manny Pacquiao and Mayweather Jr fight?

We are sensitive to the athletes and do everything possible not to interfere with their training. Our testing is done effectively to catch anyone cheating but in a respectful manner to the athletes.

11) Do you consider the experience of drug testing Floyd Maweather Jr and Shane Mosley a success? and Why?

It's absolutely been a success! When any athlete wants to ensure their own safety and play on a level playing field, USADA needs to be there to support that athletes. It's not our concern about the criticism that Mayweather Jr faced for wanting this testing. If an athlete wants to do something about it we're going to b there to support them. This experience was historic for USADA and professional Boxing.

12) Are Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather Jr still going to be tested? Are they participating in any "out of competition" testing?

They are not being tested any more. They agreed if there was any reason, based on the pre and post-fight test results, they would continue to be tested in our 'out of competition' testing.

Closing words

We've been completely open and transparent through the whole process with Mayweather Jr and Mosley. We do not favor any athlete over the other. We support all athletes who want to ensure fairness and safety.

i see so mayweather and shane actually dictated the cut-off date of the year round OST blood test... they had a cut-off per se

[Fox McCloud]

Thank god there is more about testing. I don't know about all of you, but I actually enjoying the testing part of boxing more than the fights, so... I hope this fight actually never comes off.

[FLY TY]

Just because pac was a man to step up, that gives floyd an upperhand in negotiations.all that you said right there means the fight aint happenning. That is not a fair compromise and pac wont agree. So you happy at floyds position. Do you think its right?

pac was a man to step up?

the question is, why are they suddenly trying to accept a deal that they killed the fight over the first time? what has changed?


floyd stated he would ask for more the next time....that has changed. now they want the old deal. fact is BOTH sides are trying to get as much as they can during negotiations...not just floyd. if you can't see that, i don't know what to tell you.

if pacquiao and arum were really interested in making the fight, they would start at the new terms floyd put forth 4 MONTHS AGO, not the ones he has taken off the table.