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  • #91
    Originally posted by gingeralbino View Post
    u underestimate just how much time Mosley and May had to get juiced up for this fight, if you're gonna troll, do it right.

    They had 10 days between the 1st and 2nd blood test, and 12 days between the 2nd and 3rd.

    THEN 18 days between the 3rd test and the one after the fight, man they coulda been juicing during all 3 of those periods. And then stopped just long enough before each test to be clean, then get on it again for a few days.

    Its just as feasible as taking it in the last 18 days. No different at all when u think about it.

    U just gotta get real lucky about when these guys turn up when your timing it.
    18 days>>>>12 days>>> 10 days............thats the point of this post?.....

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    • #92
      Originally posted by shogunn View Post
      haha, didnt know you could read anger. Maybe i should use capital letters or something so i can really sound angry? bold might help?

      im not concerned with floyd at all, im merely pointing out that floyd and his fans are more concerned of a small 14 day window.

      If if were true you were looking at the sport, youd be more worried testing in the offseason when steroids and heavy training are most beneficial. Instead though, youre more concerned about 14 days. usada didnt even draw blood in 18 days.

      usada had the "right" to test but they didnt. what was their message in that, its more important to have the right to test but not to actually test?

      Ive already explained that without a national boxing commission testing in the "off season" is not possible.

      Does that mean boxers should not try to have the best testing when they are contracted to fight?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by snpaa View Post
        No not really, your kinda failing,the problem with posting on boxing scene is that most people are actually educated of what's really on during the negotiations so easier to see whos wrong and whos right and wont take some random guy writing floyd vs mosely had an 18 day cut off date over and over as a fact.
        wtf do you call that, a myth?.......

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        • #94
          Originally posted by baracuda View Post
          wtf do you call that, a myth?.......
          thats either telling a lie , or saying something that isn't true.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by snpaa View Post
            thats either telling a lie , or saying something that isn't true.
            whatever makes you happy...it does'nt change facts tho!

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            • #96
              evading time for *****s

              Originally posted by LoneBum View Post
              just a lil more facts and logic that all *******s will try to ignore or suddenly become scientists and refute.
              am a pac fan. i had a thread regarding this cut-off. and lots of *****s avoided it.

              http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=385295

              now, tell me. so *****s didnt know this fact after all?

              why did floyd offer the cut off date in the first place prior the mosley fight? is floyds team a bigot or ****** team?

              they say team floyd offer the cut off coz he really wanna fight pac? why no cut off now?

              this is the reason, coz after the mosley fight, floyd knows he lost his footwork and speed. and why he plans to retire? thats an option when cornered about the 14 day cut off.

              and if u really know something. answer to my thread, if why floyd offer a cut off date when he want a fair playing field.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by 17scenes View Post
                Ive already explained that without a national boxing commission testing in the "off season" is not possible.

                Does that mean boxers should not try to have the best testing when they are contracted to fight?
                yes they do, if both boxers agree to OUTSIDE testing. Curious, did floyd ask NSAC for better testing?

                and is 14 days a must for blood testing? seeing that USADA took more urine than blood, and didnt take a drop of blood 18 days prior. I know I know, they had a right. Does that mean its better to have the right than to actually test if it was so important?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by baracuda View Post
                  whatever makes you happy...it does'nt change facts tho!
                  you do realize your statement only applies to you.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by baracuda View Post
                    18 days>>>>12 days>>> 10 days............thats the point of this post?.....
                    there will always be periods when they arent tested, whether it be days or weeks, or even, shock horror, 18 days. The key, and im pretty sure u know this my little troll, is that they dont know when those periods are gonna be.
                    Floyd didnt know he was not going to be tested during any of those periods, he didnt know if he was having another test before the fight or not, same for Mosley.

                    They could've taken a gamble that they werent going to be tested and got away with it, just like they could've done during the 10 and 12 days without testing.

                    You are absolutley correct in stating that we cant say for 100% certainty that they didnt cheat during those periods as they were not tested.

                    Just like we can say with 100% certainty that a fighter is less likely to cheat during those periods of unknown length of time, than they are during a period of time when they know for certain that they wont be tested.

                    Now, I've highlighted the bit in bold to make u a happy little troll, that you've proved us all wrong, that they could've cheated, u concentrate on that one sentence and ignore the rest.

                    I'm afraid i've no more food to give u now, im bored, im gonna look at some other threads.

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                    • Originally posted by shogunn View Post
                      haha, didnt know you could read anger. Maybe i should use capital letters or something so i can really sound angry? bold might help?

                      im not concerned with floyd at all, im merely pointing out that floyd and his fans are more concerned of a small 14 day window.

                      If if were true you were looking at the sport, youd be more worried testing in the offseason when steroids and heavy training are most beneficial. Instead though, youre more concerned about 14 days. usada didnt even draw blood in 18 days.

                      usada had the "right" to test but they didnt. what was their message in that, its more important to have the right to test but not to actually test?
                      Well all your post read of anger and emotions because all you kept saying is "Floyd" or You guys or Floyd groupie etc, Chat like a man and discuss in a matured way, We are here to discuss boxing and the way to get boxing forward.

                      You kept going on and on about off-season testing then you're trying to tell us why we need a cut-off date? Like i said before they can test off-season if they want even though it doesnt make any sense whatsoever but you're just bringing that up because you're emotional and bitter, We cant even get the P4P boxer in the world to commit to random drug testing and you want him to do all-year testing? Am looking at the positives and you looking at the negatives.

                      Because if not whats the purpose of testing a fighter when they dont have a fight? Boxing need to have its own protocol where they would test boxer as soon as they sign a contract to fight someone.

                      And finally please understand the difference between a random test that was stopped at 18 days before the fight and a test with a knowledge of a cut-off date.

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