USADA's Tygart: Pacquiao's 14-Day Window 'Misses the Point'

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  • IMDAZED
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    #91
    Originally posted by Big Dunn
    PAC-NATION:

    you are probably right. Manny only knows what he is told. The thing is if he just doesn't say anything regarding the tests he would definitely get the benefit of the doubt.

    Instead, he offers to take test with cutoff dates which makes it look like he is creating a window to cheat because he isn't arguing with floyd or his camp but the head of the USADA.

    I just don't get it.
    How can Manny not know the protocol when:

    1. He knew how many blood tests were given out in a certain period and had Mayweather compromise the test

    and

    2. He understood that it was unannounced so he requested a cutoff date?

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    • Tamis!
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      #92
      Originally posted by Big Dunn
      "You can't have a blackout period," said Tygart, referring to Pacquiao's timetable. "You simply can't draw circles around certain times where you're not going to be tested."

      The funny thing is the USADA stopped the testing 14 days out for floyd and ssm. If manny just keeps his mouth shut rather than offering to take non random tests no floyd fan could say anything.

      Manny makes himself look guilty yet most of the manny fans, even reasonable ones I respect like brick wall and tamis, refuse to acknowledge this. Any offer that isn't random should raise concerns.

      If manny just said "**** floyd I'm not taking test" from the beginiing there is nothing any floyd fan could say. Manny and his camp are their own worst enemy.
      When did I not acknowledge Pacquiao's shortcomings mate? Tell me when.

      I personally even wanted Pacquiao to take the OST up until the fight night just to finish up all of this. But it's Pacquiao's decision, and nothing anyone can do about it.

      By the way, I have a-side-meth and can hook up anyone who wanna try.

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      • brick wall
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        #93
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Get out of here! I missed that press conference! Why in the world is Floyd paying these guys???
        you were busy with your peds research you missed the press conference. now go and research more so you will have more tales to tell...we need that here on nsb.

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          #94
          Originally posted by brick wall
          You weren't expecting a real response were you?
          You kidding? I know better.

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          • PAC-NATION
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            #95
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            PAC-NATION:

            you are probably right. Manny only knows what he is told. The thing is if he just doesn't say anything regarding the tests he would definitely get the benefit of the doubt.

            Instead, he offers to take test with cutoff dates which makes it look like he is creating a window to cheat because he isn't arguing with floyd or his camp but the head of the USADA.

            I just don't get it.
            I agree. I think Manny isn't a smart person. I'm not smart myself either, but I do the same thing when I get questioned on thing I'm not familar. Just like when a teacher ask u a question and instead os saying I don't know, you just say a bullcrap answer. The only thing that comes out is you look dumber.

            You right. Manny should just keep his mouth shut and hire some advisor to speak on his behalf, like a lawyer does to a defendant.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #96
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              How can Manny not know the protocol when:

              1. He knew how many blood tests were given out in a certain period and had Mayweather compromise the test

              and

              2. He understood that it was unannounced so he requested a cutoff date?
              I don't think he has sat down and read the protocols. I think he hears things from his friends and advisers and reacts to what they tell him.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                I don't think he has sat down and read the protocols. I think he hears things from his friends and advisers and reacts to what they tell him.
                He has a promoter who relays everything to him. In a fight of this magnitude that is being held up by this single issue, do you seriously believe that he just doesn't..."understand?"

                He understood well enough to ask for the number of blood tests to be cut down.

                He understood well enough to ask for a cutoff date.

                Basically, he understood well enough to ask for the protocol to be diluted. What more does he need to understand?

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                • jake_ash
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                  #98
                  How long do PED's stay in your system?

                  One thing I haven't been able to find out: How long do PED's stay in your system?

                  Cause if both fighters are tested several times up to two weeks before the fight, and immediately following the fight, would it be possible to take a PED during the two week window and be certain that it would leave your system before the post fight test? And would that give you enough of an advantage to risk it?

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                  • Tamis!
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    I don't think he has sat down and read the protocols. I think he hears things from his friends and advisers and reacts to what they tell him.
                    That's what I've been telling all along and IMDAZED said I'm inventing stuff!

                    Manny's that unaware and a YES MAN enough to miss out.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      That's what I've been telling all along and IMDAZED said I'm inventing stuff!

                      Manny's that unaware and a YES MAN enough to miss out.
                      And this is a guy who is now a Congressman?

                      **shakes head**

                      People believe ANYTHING...ANYTHING but the one thing they don't want to believe is true...

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