Who can James Kirkland beat at 154?

[6Bound]

As beastly as he is, I wonder about his chin..Anyone with serious power could do damage..

[ИATAS]

As beastly as he is, I wonder about his chin..Anyone with serious power could do damage..

Everyone gets caught. I can post Andre Ward going down and Andre Dirrell, bernard hopkins, etc etc etc. It happens.

What that gif doesn't show is got up at the count of one and proceeded to beat the crap out the guy and stop him.

[ИATAS]

You put Vanes, Rhodes and them and not Dzindzurek?

I already explained myself I used The Ring's top 10 list. Dzindzurek was #10 and I decided to insert Paul Williams instead since he's the more popular fighter (even though he is not currently ranked at 154 being that his last couple fights were at 160). There is a 10 poll limit for a thread so someone had to be left out.

[6Bound]

Everyone gets caught. I can post Andre Ward going down and Andre Dirrell, bernard hopkins, etc etc etc. It happens.

What that gif doesn't show is got up at the count of one and proceeded to beat the crap out the guy and stop him.

No it doesnt show that because that wasnt my point..There are bigger punchers in the division that arent gonna stand there and let him beast on them without giving back aswell as they recieve..Simple as that..Imo he wont beat PW,Martinez,Cotto and even now im wondering what happens if Cintron lands cleanly on him..

[ИATAS]

No it doesnt show that because that wasnt my point..There are bigger punchers in the division that arent gonna stand there and let him beast on them without giving back aswell as they recieve..Simple as that..Imo he wont beat PW,Martinez,Cotto and even now im wondering what happens if Cintron lands cleanly on him..

Dude, he ran in and got caught. Andre Dirrell was knocked down by much, much lesser opponents early in his career and later fought the biggest puncher in his career in Abraham and absolutely schooled him and took his best shots and didn't even phase him, so your logic does not compute.

That knockdown by Kirland was him rushing in off balance and got caught. He wasn't hurt. That's called a learning experience. He later fought Julio who is a much bigger puncher than that guy and Kirkland ate his punches like they were M & M's.

[6Bound]

That knockdown by Kirland was him rushing in off balance and got caught. He wasn't hurt. That's called a learning experience. He later fought Julio who is a much bigger puncher than that guy and Kirkland ate his punches like they were M & M's.

No youre mistaken he wasnt off balance in that first punch. Julio was on his backfoot the whole time and not really sitting on his punches..My whole point yet again is that hes not going to be able to rush in and manhandle all the names ive mentioned before..

[ИATAS]

My whole point yet again is that hes not going to be able to rush in and manhandle all the names ive mentioned before..

when did I say he could manhandle all of the names above? I asked the question "who can he beat" and I said he would beat cotto. The guys he would have problems with are martinez and paul williams. And possibly Dzinziruk.

No youre mistaken he wasnt off balance in that first punch. Julio was on his backfoot the whole time and not really sitting on his punches..

The gif doesn't show it but below is the entire fight (1 round) and you can see Kirkland throws a left and completely misses, leaving himself both open and a bit off balance. he then takes a shot which catches him off guard and goes down. He gets up at the count of 1 and proceeds to knock the out, which suggests 1). he wasn't hurt and 2). the knockdown had more to do with being caught unexpectedly/off balance rather than having a weak chin.



Again if you watch the Julio fight, you can see Kirkland take big shots from a bigger puncher and they never phase him, which would suggest Kirkland at the very least, has a decent enough chin.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

i would take kirkland huge over p-willie. wiliams does not want to go to war with kirkland. williams is the one with no power and a suspect chin. james kirkland was a gorilla before he went to prison, i hope he gets even almost as much out of himself now as he did before. he can be a GREAT fighter if he can stay at 154. within 2 years i think he could take any 154 lber. before he went to jail - martinez would beat him - thats it. now that cottos at 154 i think cotto is a little bit too well schooled and experienced for him. give kirkland 5 fights and once he gets that type of experience under his belt he can be unbeatable

Are you sure you've watched Paul Williams before? You couldn't have to make a statement like the one I bolded in your post.

[TOBYLEE1]

I can see Martinez beating him. Would love to see him against Angulo, Williams and Cotto

[Walt Liquor]

I already explained myself I used The Ring's top 10 list. Dzindzurek was #10 and I decided to insert Paul Williams instead since he's the more popular fighter (even though he is not currently ranked at 154 being that his last couple fights were at 160). There is a 10 poll limit for a thread so someone had to be left out.

You should have booted sorry ass Sechew Powell.

The ring should be ashamed of itself.