The Truth About Why So Many Americans Hate The Klitschko's...

[Vadrigar.]

Cleveland Williams was nothing but a slow plodding bum. Either Klitschko decapitates his ass.

just one "medium power" uppercut landed by Williams to the chin of vlad would shatter his glass into fragments.

Ring Magazine Top 100 Greatest Punchers:


49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong

Ring Magazine Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott
14. Mike Tyson
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling
20. Max Baer
21. Floyd Patterson
22. Ken Norton
23. Rid**** Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins
27. Jerry Quarry
28. Jack Sharkey
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis (Burger mashed vitali at 37)
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley
39. Ingemar Johansson
40. Ron Lyle
41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis
43. Mike Weaver
44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock
46. Tommy Farr
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons
49. Pinklon Thomas
50. Michael Dokes


Achievemants of Eddie chambers: ?????????????????????????????

[Dick Buffman]

Next thing he'll tell us is that Tony Tucker or Bonecrusher Smith would dominate this HW division if they were around (and it wouldn't be the first time I'd had read it, either).

They always leave out how horrible Mike Tyson's opposition was too. As soon as he stepped up and fought an old Holyfield he got ktfo.

Not to mention that he lost to a journeyman in Japan.

In case anyone forgot.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=474&cat=boxer

[Dick Buffman]

just one "medium power" uppercut landed by Williams to the chin of vlad would shatter his glass into fragments.



Ring Magazine Top 100 Greatest Punchers:


49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong

Ring Magazine Top 10 All-Time Heavyweights:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Evander Holyfield
4. George Foreman
5. Larry Holmes
6. Rocky Marciano
7. Sonny Liston
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jack Johnson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Ezzard Charles
12. James J. Jeffries
13. Jersey Joe Walcott
14. Mike Tyson
15. Gene Tunney
16. Harry Wills
17. Sam Langford
18. John L. Sullivan
19. Max Schmeling
20. Max Baer
21. Floyd Patterson
22. Ken Norton
23. Rid**** Bowe
24. Bob Fitzsimmons
25. Joe Jeannette
26. Jimmy Bivins
27. Jerry Quarry
28. Jack Sharkey
29. Archie Moore
30. Sam McVey
31. Cleveland Williams
32. Lennox Lewis
33. Earnie Shavers
34. Jim Corbett
35. Ernie Terrell
36. Michael Spinks
37. Jimmy Young
38. Zora Folley
39. Ingemar Johansson
40. Ron Lyle
41. Tim Witherspoon
42. Jimmy Ellis
43. Mike Weaver
44. Michael Moorer
45. James J. Braddock
46. Tommy Farr
47. Tommy Burns
48. Tommy Gibbons
49. Pinklon Thomas
50. Michael Dokes


Achievemants of Eddie chambers: ?????????????????????????????

:lol: they got Ingemar Johanson right next to him. What did these guys get ranked for ?? 1 good win against Floyd Patterson?

The rankings are a joke. Most of these guys are on there to fill up space. Cleveland Williams was nothing but a strong puncher. Dime a dozen.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

Why do fans of Floyd Mayweather, claim they dislike Wlad because he is boring?

If you are referring to me, then dont get upset with me.... hell even the commentators talk about them, they dont even get any real coverage!!!!! WHY???


Because they are boring. Its not my fault. I never stated that they couldnt fight, I just stated that they are boring as hell, and most of the boxing world agrees with me. The avergae joe on the street doesnt even know them. And most know one of them for getting stopped by lennox lewis......

Look around you, how many klitschko avatars do you see? How many pictures do you see in the sig? These guys are the heavyweight champions and have been reigning since for ever, and yet and still people think they are boring.


Ever hear larry merchant hype them up? ever hear anyone in the sport hype them up as exciting? All the historians bert sugar etc know that they can fight, but they dont hype them up because they are boring as hell.

The mere question of you actually making this thread shows you that. People here in america arent dissing carl froch? are they? they arent dissing abraham, only some were upset with the intentional foul. Hell manny pacquiao is a phillipino, but everyone likes him and will tell you hes exciting, not the best technically, but exciting (oppposite of boring) to watch.

THESE ARE ALL WHITE FIGHTERS!!! (PACQUIAO IS THE EXCEPTION I MENTIONED)AND YOU CANT GO WITH THE OLD EAST VS WEST MENTALITY, AS MOST FIGHT FANS ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY HERE IN THE STATES.


ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE BORING THEY DONT TAKE CHANCES, AND THEY ARE ALMOST ROBOTIC, NO PERSONALITY ETC. THERES NOTHING REALLY TO LIKE IF YOU ASK ME.

[Vadrigar.]

:lol: they got Ingemar Johanson right next to him. What did these guys get ranked for ?? 1 good win against Floyd Patterson?

The rankings are a joke. Most of these guys are on there to fill up space. Cleveland Williams was nothing but a strong puncher. Dime a dozen.

hahahaha you make me laugh. Williams would have punched a hole in chambers' fat belly and decapitated vlad with a medium power shot. With full power he he hit even harder than sonny liston, who was the most feared puncher at the time. Williams was one of the fastest punchers of all time.



2:14, vladimir would not have the reflexes to get out off the way. Sorry but YOU are the only bum here. Compare the effort williams put into that punch, with the P**** hits that chambers was throwing.

[ballgamessuck]

I am an American, but nationality has little to do with who my favorite fighters are. I would not say that I am a fan of the Klitschko brothers, but I do admire the way they have dominated the division for the last five years or so. People bringing up the fact that they havent beaten anyone dont seem to realize that there is basically no one left for them to beat except Haye, Valuev, and each other.

[QADASHBANYAH1]

Cuz' they are too cowardly to admit that its cuz' they're white.

You can't possibly find them boring if you like Mayweather since they knock everyone out.

Which only leaves one obvious reason.

mayweather has a personality, and technically the best fighter on the planet, when have you seen the bros pull counter? check hook? dodge a 6 punch combo? look at the chambers fight in the last round, he couldnt even keep his ****in balance.....

mayweather talks **** and keeps up controversy. Is undefeated, and even his haters know he can fight. Lost once in the olympics and even the commentators and historians will tell you he was robbed.... Look at mosley mayweather fight for proof.

is the # welterweight in the world (RANKED) yes including pacquiao as well.

Now look at klitschko, has about as much personality as a wet dish cloth, doesnt speak english good (you know that would help his case in america, you gotta speak english)

doesnt do any of the things mayweather does as good as mayweather.

Why did people love ali? why did they love frazier? why did they love foreman? Why did they love tyson? holyfield? because they didnt fight like the klitschkos...

holy field is known for his heart etc.
not saying the klitschkos dont have heart, but they are not known for it, they need a personality. Hell ivan drago had personality and spoke decent english... lol. was a wrecking machine too lol!
This is a fake character yes, but you would expect someone with their frames and statures to be better or rather more aggressive. Come on chambers should have been out of there before the 12th round.
FACT.

[NChristo]

MmuhammadM, what's with your sig about Ray Robinson ?, the only elite boxers he didn't fight in his era are Eddie Booker who was coming to the end of his career while Robinson was on the rise, Charley Burley who had priced himself out and Robinson had no need to fight him, and Holman Williams.

Explain how you think Ray Robinson is a ducker ?.

Should be interesting.

[RimmyDelicious]

If you are referring to me, then dont get upset with me.... hell even the commentators talk about them, they dont even get any real coverage!!!!! WHY???


Because they are boring. Its not my fault. I never stated that they couldnt fight, I just stated that they are boring as hell, and most of the boxing world agrees with me. The avergae joe on the street doesnt even know them. And most know one of them for getting stopped by lennox lewis......

Look around you, how many klitschko avatars do you see? How many pictures do you see in the sig? These guys are the heavyweight champions and have been reigning since for ever, and yet and still people think they are boring.


Ever hear larry merchant hype them up? ever hear anyone in the sport hype them up as exciting? All the historians bert sugar etc know that they can fight, but they dont hype them up because they are boring as hell.

The mere question of you actually making this thread shows you that. People here in america arent dissing carl froch? are they? they arent dissing abraham, only some were upset with the intentional foul. Hell manny pacquiao is a phillipino, but everyone likes him and will tell you hes exciting, not the best technically, but exciting (oppposite of boring) to watch.

THESE ARE ALL WHITE FIGHTERS!!! (PACQUIAO IS THE EXCEPTION I MENTIONED)AND YOU CANT GO WITH THE OLD EAST VS WEST MENTALITY, AS MOST FIGHT FANS ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY HERE IN THE STATES.


ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE BORING THEY DONT TAKE CHANCES, AND THEY ARE ALMOST ROBOTIC, NO PERSONALITY ETC. THERES NOTHING REALLY TO LIKE IF YOU ASK ME.

You just can't admit it can you. Sad.

[pwnthee]

quite amusing to me that people think the Klitschkos would stand a chance against the greatest of all-time. Ali would've dominated both. Foreman would've knocked their heads off. Do people actually watch the older fights before commenting or just base it off video games or something?

Lennox Lewis, known/believed to have a bad chin, who was clearly losing badly to Vitali in the first couple rounds of their fight, managed to turn the tide and seemed on his way to stopping Vitali by true KO had cuts not stopped the fight. Had Lewis rematched Vitali, I think it's apparent Lewis would've won in dominating fashion, and a fight with Wlad would've been over fairly quickly.

The Klitschkos are certainly good fighters, the best of their "era." There's still little evidence for the case of the Klitschkos being the best heavyweights of all-time. If Ross Purrity, LEMON Brewster, and Corrie Sanders figured out how to whip Wlad, I'm pretty sure guys like Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Holmes, and Tyson would figure something out.

Seriously, Foreman would knock both their heads clear off their shoulders, and possibly their shoulders off their bodies with those uber telegraphed hooks of his. Wlad wouldn't make it out of the first 3 rounds. The much more durable Vitali would only last 7-8 at most I think.