Official Poll, Who Wins? Cotto vs Berto at 154

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  • j.one
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    #71
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Even if you felt it was a draw that means that even you still realize that it was a close enough fight that could of gone either way. So Cotto has the victory so you have to give him that. And, that was a big fight.

    Also don't use triangle theories. Be smarter than that. If you going to use triangle theories then Cotto beats Berto because, he beat Quintana in a way more dominant and easier fashion than Berto did. Do you see how ****** it ease to use triangle theories? So what Shane ****d Margarito that means nothing because Shane even by your account couldn't **** Cotto.

    Also Cotto showed heart in his fights against Torres and Clottey. So do you say he NEVER showed heart or NEVER won a big fight is totally inaccurate. And, for you to call him and hypejob journeyman shows how credible you're. Get some more knowledge of the sport before discussing it. Stick to what you know and that is Floyd Mayweather.
    By the same token cotto couldn't close the door on Shane either and still managed to get himself opened up again in his own backyard, Clottey whopped his ass and he hit Judah low after getting smashed again and torres was one of the first to tee off on him as well and all those fights were to get him in positon for a Mayweather fight. he then lost both fights to get him there and is now jumping around because he is out of the mix at 147.

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    • fdotorres
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      #72
      Originally posted by j.one
      Not little by little enough to waste my time hating on a website lol.
      hating? you're hating on cotto, i'm not hating on you

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      • jrosales13
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        #73
        Originally posted by j.one
        By the same token cotto couldn't close the door on Shane either and still managed to get himself opened up again in his own backyard, Clottey whopped his ass and he hit Judah low after getting smashed again and torres was one of the first to tee off on him as well and all those fights were to get him in positon for a Mayweather fight. he then lost both fights to get him there and is now jumping around because he is out of the mix at 147.
        Again you're all over the place man calm down relax and read slowly.

        You said he never showed heart- That is an inaccurate statement even if you felt he lost to Clottey he still showed heart in that fight and also showed heart aginst Torres.

        So now we see how wrong you were with that statement right?

        Then you said he never won a big fight- Again inaccurate statement. By YOUR VERY OWN account is that you had it a draw against Mosley. Which means that even you saw it as a close enough fight that either man could of won. And, if that is the case and Cotto got the victory then you have to give him that.

        So now we see how wrong you were with that statement right?

        Being out of the mix at 147 has nothing to do with how he would do against Berto. Especially when the the title of this thread it mentions at 154. Cotto is a champ at 154. So how is he out of the mix at 154? Did you even read the thread before answering? If anybody is out of the mix here it is Berto. It is Berto who is not ranked at 154 while Cotto is, it will be Berto who will be the challenger while Cotto the champ, it is Berto who will be taking less money while Cotto taking the bigger split. 147 would be irrelevant. Unless you think that Cotto is out of the mix at 154. But, that would be just plain ******ity, however from you post it would not surprise me if you feel that way.

        And, once again calling Cotto a hypejob journeyman shows how credible you really are. Especially not knowing the difference between close loses and robberies. You letting your emotions get the best of you. Calm down because, you making a lot of inaccurate statements and maybe because you too heated? I don't know but you're sounding foolish. Or maybe you're out of your comfort zone in this subject and if that is the case then is cool just stick to what you know and that is Floyd Mayweather. And, just be at the sidelines and peep game so you could gain some knowledge. Then later we could have a better debate.
        Last edited by jrosales13; 06-09-2010, 12:34 AM.

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        • fdotorres
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          #74
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Again you're all over the place man calm down relax and read slowly.

          You said he never showed heart- That is an inaccurate statement even if you felt he lost to Clottey he still showed heart in that fight and also showed heart aginst Torres.

          So now we see how wrong you were with that statement right?

          Then you said he never won a big fight- Again inaccurate statement. By YOUR VERY OWN account is that you had it a draw. Which mean that even you saw it as a close enough fight that either man could of won. And, if that is the case and Cotto got the victory then you have to give him that.

          So now we see how wrong you were with that statement right?

          Being out of the mix at 147 has nothing to do with how he would do against Berto. Especially when the the title of this thread it mentions at 154. Cotto is a champ at 154. So how is he out of the mix at 154? Did you even read the thread before answering? If anybody is out of the mix here it is Berto. It is Berto who is not ranked at 154 while Cotto is, it will be Berto who will be the challenger while Cotto the champ, it is Berto who will be taking less money while Cotto taking the bigger split. 147 would be irrelevant. Unless you think that Cotto is out of the mix at 154. But, that would be just plain ******ity, however from you post it would not surprise me if you fell that way.

          And, once again calling Cotto a hypejob journeyman shows how credible you really are. Especially not knowing the difference between close loses and robberies. You letting your emotions get the best of you. Calm down because, you making a lot of inaccurate statements and maybe because you too heated? I don't know but you're sounding foolish. Or maybe you're out of debt in this subject and if that is the case then is cool just stick to what you know and that is Floyd Mayweather. And, just be at the sidelines and peep game so you could gain some knowledge. Then later we could have a better debate.
          jrosales by murder

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          • j.one
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            #75
            Originally posted by fdotorres
            hating? you're hating on cotto, i'm not hating on you

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            So stating that Cotto proved nothing about his D and handling pressure is hating? people started hating so the facts came out, he hits low and has lost all the fights that would get him the Mayweather fight. beside that all i said was berto was a better fighter than Foreman and would have a shot at the fight based on his style of making the fight ugly and frustrating Cotto and making him melt down, i also said Berto could be exposed as the protected fighter he is percieved to be if Cotto can get going. the point was i think berto could make the fight ugly and based on Cotto's inability to tie up in his fights when he needs to makes me think berto would hold and hit him and win. There was no hate really i didn't make up lies about the man,he has quit and lost all the big fights that would get him a Mayweather fight.

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            • Kambumbo
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              #76
              daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn go easy on him Jro

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              • Dambala
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                #77
                This would be the perfect time for Cotto to make this fight. They have similar flaws, Cotto would have the edge in power and Berto in speed. Cotto's experience would be a huge factor here. It would be very competitive for the first 5-6 rds then Cotto takes over when all the body shouts have slowed down Berto to win by TKO in the 10th rd.

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                • fdotorres
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by j.one
                  So stating that Cotto proved nothing about his D and handling pressure is hating? people started hating so the facts came out, he hits low and has lost all the fights that would get him the Mayweather fight. beside that all i said was berto was a better fighter than Foreman and would have a shot at the fight based on his style of making the fight ugly and frustrating Cotto and making him melt down, i also said Berto could be exposed as the protected fighter he is percieved to be if Cotto can get going. the point was i think berto could make the fight ugly and based on Cotto's inability to tie up in his fights when he needs to makes me think berto would hold and hit him and win. There was no hate really i didn't make up lies about the man,he has quit and lost all the big fights that would get him a Mayweather fight.
                  nope, but saying that he's never won a big fight is pure hate. the guys got one of the 3 best WW resumes of this generation. denying that IS hating

                  saying that he's a hypejob and a journeyman is ALSO pure hate

                  idiot
                  Last edited by fdotorres; 06-09-2010, 12:38 AM.

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                  • Anti~Jalandoni
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by $iCaRiO Sr
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                    Cotto by KO? I dont think he would win against Foreman, if he didnt slipped....

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                    • fdotorres
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Anti~Jalandoni
                      Cotto by KO? I dont think he would win against Foreman, if he didnt slipped....
                      the fight was 6-1 in favor of cotto before the slip

                      was foreman gonna KO cotto?

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