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  • Originally posted by swizz View Post
    homie is d*ckrider so their is nothing you guys could say he feels like floyd should cave to pac but pac shouldnt have to

    he has been taking the special milkshake
    It's so bad. Only Manny's words count after the fact

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    • Originally posted by Mr. Mandingo View Post
      So you dont believe Floyd when he said he's cleaning up the sport?
      And you dont think Floyd himself would be convinced that Pac is not Juicing if the deal is the 14-day cutoff?
      why is it nstead of getting at floyd you guys dont get on the guy the turn down the testing and now all the sudden wants to agree to an old negotiation that he knows is off the table and knows he could get a better deal floyd let him pick the ringsides glove size 50/50 split and offer 14 days

      pac said they never offer 14 days and than now their saying floyd did offer it and now are willing to take it sounds like someone stretch the truth and now wants to look good by saying ill take those terms, after floyd destroy mosley terms have change


      floyd made one demand and it got turn down

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      • Originally posted by El Jesus View Post
        I havent read any of this thread, but do you people even remember that floyd SAID hed do this back when he said if his fight ourgrossed pacs on PPV that all deals previous were off the table?

        I mean, he flatout SAID THIS. What kind of question is this? "Why a new deal"

        because his fight just did 1.4 ****ing million PPV buys. that 50/50, 14 day cutoff is out at this point. If i was floyd, id bleed pac and his team, knowing i have the numbers and knowing i just fought a guy who didint demand a cutoff. Floyd is the superior draw, this is honestly a redundant question aimed at doing exactly what pac has been trying to do ever since floyd outgrossed him, which is agree to **** thats long been off the table to make himself look like he badly wants the fight.
        I said this about 3 times now but the guy just doesn't respond because i guess deep down he knows he is looking ******.

        Also remember that in the previous demands Pac was coming of a fantastic win probably either 1st or 2nd in his career and made huge buys with Cotto. Now Floyd last opponent and performance was far better then Pac's its flipped around..

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        • Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Post
          honestly even though you are trying to come off as fair in your questions you really are ignoring a lot of what has been said

          but as a show of respect to you I will answer your questions

          1. sure there is just because something isn't official does not mean there cannot be precedent. Mayweather clearly has now gone through the same testing Manny refused with little to now intrusion.

          My man, OST has been done before Floyd-shane therefore there is no precedant. Second, it is unofficial and shouldn't even be an issue if he wants this fight.

          2. he did way back. However, according to you it means nothing because it's in the past even though the same things he threw out there to make the fight only now is Manny saying they are okay, even after Mayweather said they were off the table


          This is the whole point to a compromise. Manny was unwilling before, now he's trying to make the fight, is that not a positive?
          3. no you are missing the point. Again, please follow, the offer that you and Manny's ilk are so in love with, was taken off the table in Feb. That is undeniable fact. TAKEN OFF THE TABLE. Mayweather's words not my speculation. Manny simply didn't bend to anything because there isn't an offer out there to bend to.
          Im not missing the point, you seem to be saying Floyd shouldn't have to compromise because he took it off the table. He doesn't. But in the best interest of the fight and himself it is the right thing to do in my opinion.

          4) typical immature response. No one is saying they don't want the fight to happen. Again, just because some of us can defend Floyd's side of things doesn't mean we don't want the fight to happen. In fact, had you followed along I think you would have seen the post where I state as much


          I have seen it, I just don't see how you can really want this fight if you're willing to keep letting Floyd dictate terms. Manny has given in to a previous demand. Nothing has changed to make that demand anymore unreasonable than it originally was.

          5) well this shows me you are going to completely ignore what was said by Mayweather in Feb, but why? why ignore that one aspect? is it because it shoots down the whole "Manny accepted theory"?
          Im not ignoring it, I just see it as another road block to not make this fight. Why make an offer and rescind it when you can't do any better with anyone else?

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Im not ignoring it, I just see it as another road block to not make this fight. Why make an offer and rescind it when you can't do any better with anyone else?
            Read what you wrote and apply it to Manny. Especially since Floyd is the bigger draw.

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Yup and yup. Definitely don't think Floyd is out to clean up the sport. Why are you so repetitive? You asked me before and I said I believe he thinks Pac is juicing. I also believe that while he may not want to give them any window, he felt 14 days was better than none. Keep in mind that the cutoff wasn't the only thing Floyd compromised (# of tests, etc). Which is why, after compromising so much, he said eff that, take the full testing. That's where we stand today.
              Floyd cleaning up the sport or Floyd thinks PAC's juicing, whatever may be ....Floyd should have thought the 14-day offer was enough. So why a new deal?

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              • No point in arguing with floyd fans. These guys are judas and floyd is their priest. Pacquiao is compromosing despite not liking at all this whole drug blood testing crap! Now it's time for floyd to do his part to make this fight happen! No reason for floyd not to accept his original deal on this part. Nothing has changed! And for those claiming that the last PPV proved that floyd is a lot better draw than Pac then answer this, would floyd make more than even 600K in PPV sales fighting clottey? i sincerely doubt it

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                • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  I started name calling as soon as I read your first post.
                  Look at that, straight from the horses mouth!!

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                  • Originally posted by swizz View Post
                    dude you getting owned with facts man
                    Put down your pom poms already and jump in the fracas if you think you can hang.

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                    • after reading some post, some of you have this warped sense of humility like manny is somehow giving up so much to make the fight happen, which is flatout ******. Hes agreeing to a previous offer to make it look good for the media, and when i say media, i mean Filipino media, because out here outside of blogs and pathetic wanabe examiner journalists, nobody is reporting on anything, why? because negotiations arent happening.

                      Threads like this are hypocritical, what happened to pride? lawsuits? remember how you guys were like "I HOPE THEY SUE MAYWEATHER FOR EVERY PENNY"

                      You guys had every excuse for manny not to take tests, or just do what the commission says. I mean, you guys attack mayweather fans for just siding with whatever he does, which is more than reasonable, but some of you move the goalposts for this guy.

                      You cant just throw away logic and say "oh manny is agreeing to everything" hes agreeing to something that has been off the table for months! Remember after the mosley fight he called into a filipino radio station and basically said its still 24 days?

                      This guy has been negotiating through the media and with himself for the last few weeks. This is ALWAYS a big no no, ALWAYS.

                      Now after mosley didint need a cutoff nor did they know about a cutoff, they took all tests without issue, agreeing to 14 days is just ******. Some of you and you know who you are, are on this "Well boxing needs this! floyd is being greedy"

                      of course hes being ****ing greedy, he just outgrossed pacs highest grossing fight. He nearly outgrossed him with a mismatch in marquez and heavily outdid him with mosley. Id be greedy too. Thats any fighters nature. Manny pulling threatening to pull out of de la hoya and hatton fights out of greed.

                      But yall just forgot about that. You guys need to just shut up and be patient and stop hanging over every little word ronnie nathanieliz says. The reason why you guys are in this pathetic uproar is because you have literally no patience and just want contracts to be signed and sealed at your beckoning. It doesnt work like that.

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